News: Resolved - PS2 Region - Page 55

Maarvy · 2012-03-21, 08:19 AM

Speaking as one of the leaders of a very large mixed nationality guild region locking would probably stop us moving to ps2 in force , sure some people would still play individualy on there various severs but the majority wouldnt bother and simply play something where we are not restricted .

megamold · 2012-03-21, 08:31 AM

Originally Posted by Maarvy

Speaking as one of the leaders of a very large mixed nationality guild region locking would probably stop us moving to ps2 in force , sure some people would still play individualy on there various severs but the majority wouldnt bother and simply play something where we are not restricted .

sure i can see how it sucks to not be able to play with friends/outfitmembers overseas, but it sure wouldnt stop me from still playing the game.

IronMole · 2012-03-21, 10:26 AM

Originally Posted by megamold

sure i can see how it sucks to not be able to play with friends/outfitmembers overseas, but it sure wouldnt stop me from still playing the game.

Good for you.

megamold · 2012-03-21, 10:28 AM

Originally Posted by IronMole

Good for you.

nice to see you got that whole passive-agressive thing down.

IronMole · 2012-03-21, 10:31 AM

Originally Posted by megamold

nice to see you got that whole passive-agressive thing down.

Thank you.

megamold · 2012-03-21, 10:34 AM

you are most welcome

Shanesan · 2012-03-22, 01:51 AM

So my problem appears to be that my posts are either too good (thank you Kran De Loy), or this thread has devalued into flame bait.

If you guys are talking about region-locking because of ping still, you are really just disgracing the coding team at SoE and saying they don't know how to code.

A region lock is not necessary if the issue is simply a delay from nodes over the ocean. Just open servers in different regions, open to all, and have people judge how much ping they wish to deal with.

Kran De Loy · 2012-03-22, 02:34 AM

Originally Posted by Shanesan

A region lock is not necessary if the issue is simply a delay from nodes over the ocean. Just open servers in different regions, open to all, and have people judge how much ping they wish to deal with.

Yup. It's sad that very idea has been said so often by so many different people. That means to me that even the common laymen of gaming knows more about the matter of region-locking then the heads of such a major gaming/electronics megacorporation. Do they just not have people advising them or is it just not the right people?

Anyway, as much as we got sidetracked by the ping discussion it at least probably educated some people about why it shouldn't be a factor in region-locking for SOE. I know I learned stuff.

So back to topic: It's been 24 days since Smed told us to wait for details. (Source) It took SOE and PSS1 6 weeks between then the deal was signed to when it was announced. (Source?) The original Deal being signed 2 weeks (Source?) before Sony announced a $2.1 billion loss in the last quarter. (Source)

So how long is it gonna take to announce the details to a REVISED partnership? I personally believe that the original announcement was pushed back for further tinkering and/or that Smed was leaned on by Sony to sign the deal early in order to mitigate part of that ridiculously huge loss.

So again, how long is it gonna take to announce a revised version of something that was already built? Is the fact that they're getting rid of RegionLocking making THAT big of a difference in the partnership deal?

And speculatively speaking now, is this an indication of the speed of which any other problems between SOE and PSS1 will be communicated and dealt with? It is also an indication of the quality of service that will be presented when customers have to deal with PSS1 to get to SOE?

Skittles · 2012-03-27, 05:46 AM

Its not going to work.

This thing is on the back burner as far as SOE is concerned and a dead subject. Region locking is in, its simply a matter of waiting for beta releases and people to become more interested in the James Woods/Family Guy "Oh, a piece of candy. Oh a piece of candy." scenerio to play out then worrying about the few outfits, randoms they'll lose by region locking.

This crap was huge and important a month ago. Its become a whimper here with only a handful still posting on this thread. In another few months, after beta invites are sent and the buzz about all that is thru, SOE will not give a rats ass about region locks.

FastAndFree · 2012-03-27, 07:21 AM

Originally Posted by Skittles

Its not going to work.

This thing is on the back burner as far as SOE is concerned and a dead subject. Region locking is in, its simply a matter of waiting for beta releases and people to become more interested in the James Woods/Family Guy "Oh, a piece of candy. Oh a piece of candy." scenerio to play out then worrying about the few outfits, randoms they'll lose by region locking.

This crap was huge and important a month ago. Its become a whimper here with only a handful still posting on this thread. In another few months, after beta invites are sent and the buzz about all that is thru, SOE will not give a rats ass about region locks.

No, it will pick right up if it becomes evident that there is no Solution

Skitrel · 2012-03-27, 08:04 AM

Originally Posted by Skittles

Its not going to work.

This thing is on the back burner as far as SOE is concerned and a dead subject. Region locking is in, its simply a matter of waiting for beta releases and people to become more interested in the James Woods/Family Guy "Oh, a piece of candy. Oh a piece of candy." scenerio to play out then worrying about the few outfits, randoms they'll lose by region locking.

This crap was huge and important a month ago. Its become a whimper here with only a handful still posting on this thread. In another few months, after beta invites are sent and the buzz about all that is thru, SOE will not give a rats ass about region locks.

It hasn't become a whimper at all, it's become an "Ok, we'll wait and see".

Fail to deliver and gaming communities release absolutely monstrous outrage. ME3 and TOR being two excellent examples of it recently.

If SOE fails on the customer relations level before they've even released the game, with this issue, they set a precedent for their attitude and behaviour to their customers being akin to that of EA.

If that precedence and comparison gets set, if people compare and view them as a company no different to EA in their lack of care for their customers, well that will be a deathblow to the game before it's even started.

If they don't recognise that, they deserve the failure that they'll bring on themselves with it. EA get by on consumer ignorance because a massive proportion of their market doesn't follow what goes on in backwater gaming sites. They manage to avoid negative publicity until after a game goes to sale. And they strive off of the sales they get from those that don't know of their misgivings.

If SOE on the other hand label themselves prior to launch, they're fucked. Not to mention they have absolutely no means to make quick cash, F2P and all that.

I will be comparing SOE to EA at every opportunity I can should this occur, and I urge everyone else to take the same stance. It's pretty much the strongest threat that can happen and it'll damn well give the people in suits something to worry about.

Want results? You threaten the bottom line.

Vancha · 2012-03-27, 05:55 AM

Actually, they should give a rats ass. Planetside 2 is coming long before EQNext, if the EQ players see SOE has in fact ignored us, the EQ players will realize the same thing will happen to them and they'll be in an uproar once again. Not to mention SOE's reputation taking another hit with bad publicity. If new players are made aware on day one that they're playing a game "despite" a bad company instead of playing with an improving company, they will be less hesitant to leave the first time they're burned by SOE.

Skittles · 2012-03-27, 12:51 PM

Originally Posted by Vancha

Actually, they should give a rats ass. Planetside 2 is coming long before EQNext, if the EQ players see SOE has in fact ignored us, the EQ players will realize the same thing will happen to them and they'll be in an uproar once again. Not to mention SOE's reputation taking another hit with bad publicity. If new players are made aware on day one that they're playing a game "despite" a bad company instead of playing with an improving company, they will be less hesitant to leave the first time they're burned by SOE.

Shoulda-woulda-coulda

Same with EQNext. What it boils down to is Pro7, and the money they've already invested in this venture. They're a multi-BILLION dollar company. You honestly think they give a rats ass about a handful of outfits-clans-societies from PS-EQ? Hell no. The amount of money they stand to lose by those people not signing up is minimal. M-I-N-I-M-A-L.

In 2004 EQ had 450k subs. 8yrs later how many do you think they've retained? 100K to be generous, even if ALL of them quit, which is obviously far-fetched, thats a mere $1.5m a month. That is not even the interest earned on a multi-BILLION dollar companies cash reserves.

So in http://www.planetside-universe.com/s...649#post664649

We have ArmedZealot suggesting that PS2 with all its BF3 imitations is going to sell somewhere in the neighborhood of 11 MILLION copies!!!
A stretch granted, but lets go with PS2 having 300k subs and those subs purchase $10.00 worth of CS a month. They're still DOUBLING their profits.

I dont care for the deal anymore then anyone else, but I dont see Pro7 giving a rats ass and allowing SOE and Smedly to just back right out after giving them a huge cash influx. Sorry. You dont become a multi-BILLION dollar company by handing out lollipops and kittens to every Tom, Dick and Harry that asks for a "partnership". You do it by being the a ruthless mofo and bludgeoning your opponent to your will.

Vancha · 2012-03-27, 12:55 PM

Read the thread, there's enough of it. You don't have a grasp of the situation if you think this only stands to lose SOE it's current subscribers.

Skittles · 2012-03-27, 01:23 PM

Originally Posted by Vancha

Read the thread, there's enough of it. You don't have a grasp of the situation if you think this only stands to lose SOE it's current subscribers.

Read the post theres enough of it, you dont grasp the situation if you think Pro7 cares whether SOE loses current OR future subscribers.