Do you guys believe this moon could support life? - Page 6

MasterChief096 · 2012-06-25, 12:52 PM

Originally Posted by Shogun

i guess the big announcement we are waiting for this week will be the following:

We are proud to announce that the planetside 2 team will get a new member!
please welcome stephen hawking to the team, he will make sure that every aspect of our gameworld will be explainable by actual space physics!

I, for one, would welcome this.

Shogun · 2012-06-25, 01:10 PM

Originally Posted by MasterChief096

I, for one, would welcome this.

actually this would be awesome

but what i mean is, that only very few players would have noticed that this moon may be too small to support an atmosphere because of the low possibility for a working magnetic field. i wouldn´t see a problem if this moon would be part of a future expansion of some kind. i wouldn´t mind if it has an atmosphere or not. as long as the major rules are met like we have to wear closed helmets in zero-atmosphere.
you know, the kind of things everybody would take note of, who has seen a single scifi movie or wasn´t asleep at school.

Biohazard · 2012-06-25, 01:13 PM

Originally Posted by SztEltviz

I don't see where these pictures invalidate the double planet idea.

I belive that the 'Rightbigplanet' is a moon around Auraxis.

Sun
.
.
.
Gas Giant

^-planet 1

^-Auraxis
^^- Auraxis's moon

I believe this because it is moving significantly faster than the other two bodies, and appears larger than planet 1. Suggesting that it is a small body much closer to Auraxis than planet 1. It may be a third moon around the gas giant, but I think the dev's have talked about the moon going into different phases to effect the brightness of night. Meaning that there is a moon and the Rightbigplanet is the most likely candidate.

Rbstr · 2012-06-25, 01:13 PM

Originally Posted by Canaris

maybe Auraxis and those other planets are tidally locked in a similar orbit together in some beautiful yet randomly obscene planetary system ballet?

It would make sense for Auraxis to be tidally locked to the gas giant, as nearly every large moon in our solar system.

Here's my picture of the cosmology involved:
Star orbited by some planets including this gas giant/brown dwarf, it has at least two moons which are either larger/comparable to the larger moons in our solar system, the green one and Auraxis. Auraxis has a smaller moon of its own, perhaps Encledus or Mimas sized.
That last bit is the only thing that seems potentially unlikely to me, as we haven't observed a satellite of a satellite.

(Also someone earlier got this wrong: All of the larger satellites in our solar system have substantial water/ice layers on them except for Io and the Moon. Ganymede, Europa, Titan[which even has a thick opaque atmosphere that supports rain - of methane/ethane])

Memeotis · 2012-06-25, 01:16 PM

Yeah I can see where you're coming from. The only way I can make sense of this is that the big object in the background is in fact larger than Auraxis; probably the size of Saturn. That way, Auraxis and the other moon can both be assumed as being earth-sized.

Sledgecrushr · 2012-06-25, 01:20 PM

Originally Posted by Memeotis

Yeah I can see where you're coming from. The only way I can make sense of this is that the big object in the background is in fact larger than Auraxis; probably the size of Saturn. That way, Auraxis and the other moon can both be assumed as being earth-sized.

With the small continent size, I am leaning towards auraxis being a moon.

PsychoXR-20 · 2012-06-25, 01:56 PM

Originally Posted by Canaris

I like how the Auraxis sky looks at present, it has character, making it look realistic with just blue sky and a far off moon robs you of the feeling you're on an alien world.

Toto we ain't in Kansas no more

No one is asking for the objects to be removed, just re-sized, and re-positioned so they are possible. Moving them away from each other so that the sky isn't overcrowded, shrinking them some so they actually fee like real objects (the distances between celestial objects is massive) and just generally making the Auraxian system feel physically possible.

At least that's what I want.

SztEltviz · 2012-06-25, 02:19 PM

Originally Posted by Biohazard

I belive that the 'Rightbigplanet' is a moon around Auraxis.

Sun
.
.
.
Gas Giant

^-planet 1

^-Auraxis
^^- Auraxis's moon

I believe this because it is moving significantly faster than the other two bodies, and appears larger than planet 1. Suggesting that it is a small body much closer to Auraxis than planet 1. It may be a third moon around the gas giant, but I think the dev's have talked about the moon going into different phases to effect the brightness of night. Meaning that there is a moon and the Rightbigplanet is the most likely candidate.

The problem with this scenario, that gives no explanation what illuminate Auraxis's moon. The sun is at the other side of the gas giant.

magnatron · 2012-06-25, 03:21 PM

I'm pretty sure there needs to be some sort of alien tech going on here, as you normally don't find gas giants in the inner track of a solar system (assuming this planet isn't on a death spiral to the sun).

witch says to me this star has got to be absolutely massive for the Goldilock zone to be far enough out to provide enough light for life by the gas giants.

if this is the case it would seem to me that solar activity would be on a scale we have never experienced, and perhaps the magnetic field of the giant would not be able to fully shield its moons.

on the topic of magnetic fields, I'm pretty sure I've read somewhere that Jupiter's magnetic field is so strong that it would kill any unshielded human that got close to it. this leads to the question of just how an entire population survives on a moon that's right on top of it (assuming we are on a moon)

witch brings me back to the alien tech, incorporate a few alien techs that are beyond our understanding (warp gates as the most obvious) and it may very well be possible to create a sky like that, but at that point we are getting into these being spaceships or satellites under a beings control rather than typical moons and planets

and i think ill stop the ramblings there before i get too ridiculous lol

PsychoXR-20 · 2012-06-25, 03:56 PM

Originally Posted by magnatron

I'm pretty sure there needs to be some sort of alien tech going on here, as you normally don't find gas giants in the inner track of a solar system (assuming this planet isn't on a death spiral to the sun).

Actually the vast vast majority of extra solar planets we have discovered are gas giants orbiting extremely close to their parent star.

Originally Posted by magnatron

witch says to me this star has got to be absolutely massive for the Goldilock zone to be far enough out to provide enough light for life by the gas giants.

Because Auraxis is assumed to be orbiting a gas giant, it doesn't necessarily need to be in the habitable zone, as the gas giant can provide some of the heat necessary for humans to survive (this is of course assuming no terraforming has taken place, and that the gas giant isnt radiating lethal amounts of radiation). Not to mention the tidal forces from this giant would produce quite a bit of internal heat in Auraxis.

Originally Posted by magnatron

on the topic of magnetic fields, I'm pretty sure I've read somewhere that Jupiter's magnetic field is so strong that it would kill any unshielded human that got close to it. this leads to the question of just how an entire population survives on a moon that's right on top of it (assuming we are on a moon)

That doesn't really have anything to do wit the magnetic field, Jupiter just radiates too much radiation for Earth life to survive on any of the Galilean moons.

Originally Posted by magnatron

witch brings me back to the alien tech, incorporate a few alien techs that are beyond our understanding (warp gates as the most obvious) and it may very well be possible to create a sky like that, but at that point we are getting into these being spaceships or satellites under a beings control rather than typical moons and planets

That still doesn't explain:

A) how these planets managed to survive before the Vanu arrived. (gravitational fields, tidal forces etc.)
B) How that garden moon is lit on the side facing us, when it's in front of the gas giant, which in turn in is front of the sun (thus eclipsing both Auraxis and the garden world)

I'm all for a super sci-fi skyline, I love this kind of stuff, I just also love a realistic interpretation of these things.

Sledgecrushr · 2012-06-25, 04:09 PM

Isnt Auraxis part of a binary star system? That would explain how there is
light coming from the wrong direction.

lolroflroflcake · 2012-06-25, 04:13 PM

Of course it supports life, I live there. Sucks being you other guys with your being an actual planet with only one moon, such a boring night sky. I've got a gas giant and a few other cool looking moons to look at at night and the internet is fucking awesome considering I can play with you guys on earth and I only get a ping of around sixty.

Synapse · 2012-06-25, 04:16 PM

Originally Posted by PsychoXR-20

That doesn't really have anything to do wit the magnetic field, Jupiter just radiates too much radiation for Earth life to survive on any of the Galilean moons.

Are you a scientist or something? Because you're directly contradicting lots of experts who are currently looking for life on Europa.

http://web.archive.org/web/200607030...7March2001.pdf

Just because it doesn't live on the surface doesn't mean life isnt possible there.