Planetside 2 - ESport? - Page 6

Rumblepit · 2012-05-31, 10:19 AM

Originally Posted by Fable

Calm down. No reason to be that aggresive.

lol i didnt use caps .... just stating the facts.their not in alpha, they dont know anything about outfit wars system.

Fable · 2012-05-31, 10:38 AM

Originally Posted by Rumblepit

lol i didnt use caps .... just stating the facts.their not in alpha, they dont know anything about outfit wars system.

So that means you are in alpha? If you're not, your opinion has the same value as anybody else's. You may be wrong you know...

Mastachief · 2012-05-31, 10:49 AM

Originally Posted by Rumblepit

..... outfit wars will be implemented!!!!! this is fact!!!

Quote your source or GTFO with your roidrage

Mastachief · 2012-05-31, 10:51 AM

Originally Posted by elfailo

I don't see why outfit wars and competitive matches couldn't work. You simply limit the battlefield to a couple of hexes. There probably won't be cash prizes (because it's Sony), but setting up streaming events and websites with ladders shouldn't be out of reach.

You won't see Beastcleave teams destroying RMP's in 3 seconds in an FPS where everyone uses virtually the same equipment.

Outfit wars can certainly work provided they don't interrupt/take away from the actual game in any meaningful way and are run rarely with good management. Also to completion with a clear winner.

Rumblepit · 2012-05-31, 10:55 AM

hers is a quick viable esport scenario,

outfitwars are in game, i assume their will be some sort of bidding system with resources to attack a outfit base, because they want them in the open world, but they dont want them to be attacked at random 24 hrs a day. so they will be contained in some manner. a league sees that ps2 is doing great, and want to host the game. they talk to soe,get a outfit base or just get it in game. they start hosting matches.common pool weapons , no tech,no armor,no faction abilities,no cert abilities ,10 v 10 and 20 v 20 only! must have same classes on each team!!!! 2 medics, 1 engy, 1 cloaker,2 maxes,4 assault. to win you must capture all 5 capture points in a base, or as many as you can in 15 mins. each team will attack and defend. best time, or most caps moves up the ladder.all teams must register, not have a ip on the blacklist, pass ping test, must download ESL Wire Anti-Cheat. all matches will be reviewed on wired then a winner will be declared. spectate modes can be added, im sure the devs have some they use already.

this took me 15 mins. and i think its viable. i know it can be done, it can be done much better then this.

Rumblepit · 2012-05-31, 10:56 AM

Originally Posted by Mastachief

Quote your source or GTFO with your roidrage

the COE himself said it. Smed

also i mite be wrong but i thought i remember higby talking about 40 v 40 outfit wars aswell.this is ALPHA and subject to change, as they say.lol

LancerNC · 2012-05-31, 10:57 AM

Here is a thought. What if instead of showing off the game to the public through eSports, someone made short little documentaries (10-15 min YouTube clips) on the major outfits in Planetside 2. They could possibly include some footage of the major battles, you could see how each individual outfit strategizes and competes within the game, hear some outfit players commentate on the game and their outfit, etc...

I think these types of "documentaries" (can't think of a better name) is something that would be really interesting to the gaming community, would show off the game, and would benefit the individual outfits in ps2. What do you guys think?

Fable · 2012-05-31, 11:07 AM

Originally Posted by LancerNC

Here is a thought. What if instead of showing off the game to the public through eSports, someone made short little documentaries (10-15 min YouTube clips) on the major outfits in Planetside 2. They could possibly include some footage of the major battles, you could see how each individual outfit strategizes and competes within the game, hear some outfit players commentate on the game and their outfit, etc...

I think these types of "documentaries" (can't think of a better name) is something that would be really interesting to the gaming community, would show off the game, and would benefit the individual outfits in ps2. What do you guys think?

This idea is nice and it could be done few months into the release, but it would have much smaller impact than you think. Not many people really care about this stuff and those who would are propably already PS players. It wouldn't get many new players.

Anyways, let's not go off-topic

Rumblepit · 2012-05-31, 11:12 AM

im sorry if this seems like a rant but i happen to be a BIG fan of esports and a BIGGER ps fan!!!! you dont see any bad games being hosted by any leagues. main stream popular games make the cut. thats it.so i take offense to people saying ps2 wont be good enough for that. thats just what im reading......

Fable · 2012-05-31, 11:18 AM

Originally Posted by Rumblepit

im sorry if this seems like a rant but i happen to be a BIG fan of esports and a BIGGER ps fan!!!! you dont see any bad games being hosted by any leagues. main stream popular games make the cut. thats it.so i take offense to people saying ps2 wont be good enough for that. thats just what im reading......

I don't think anyone said PS2 isn't good enough for e-sports

The game is frickin' great and revolutionary. The problem is that the gameplay is not suited for e-sports. It's really hard to imagine competitive playing in PS2 without really big change in what the goal of the game is. It would be difficult to organize, spectate and there wouldn't be enough people to participate who take e-sports seriously.

LancerNC · 2012-05-31, 11:18 AM

I just think that no one has ever done something like this with any game. I guess I can't speak for you, but I would definitely watch a show that reported on the top guilds in WoW and how they managed to be the best, or the best bf3 clan and their operations, or the top Halo team and what they do to succeed, etc...

I disagree with you that it would have little effect on new players. If done well, more outfits/guilds/clans will come to the game once they see what kind of things their clan can do in a game like Planetside 2.

Rumblepit · 2012-05-31, 11:24 AM

Originally Posted by Fable

I don't think anyone said PS2 isn't good enough for e-sports

The game is frickin' great and revolutionary. The problem is that the gameplay is not suited for e-sports. It's really hard to imagine competitive playing in PS2 without really big change in what the goal of the game is. It would be difficult to organize, spectate and there wouldn't be enough people to participate who take e-sports seriously.

you should scroll up and read my post "viable esport scenario" you under estimate how many people compete...you should check out MLG,ESL,Esport Heaven. thats a million or so players right there.

Fable · 2012-05-31, 11:25 AM

Originally Posted by LancerNC

I just think that no one has ever done something like this with any game. I guess I can't speak for you, but I would definitely watch a show that reported on the top guilds in WoW and how they managed to be the best, or the best bf3 clan and their operations, or the top Halo team and what they do to succeed, etc...

I disagree with you that it would have little effect on new players. If done well, more outfits/guilds/clans will come to the game once they see what kind of things their clan can do in a game like Planetside 2.

Well, you are right about the fact that no game has done something like this. The problem is it would need to be done really well. Like professional well. This propably couldn't be done by fans, if you want to achieve quality you need to make people interested in it.

If it was made by fans, it would require at least 3 people and it would take at least few months to make one video, at least the first one. Anything less would hinder the quality. In my opinion.

Fable · 2012-05-31, 11:34 AM

Originally Posted by Rumblepit

you should scroll up and read my post "viable esport scenario" you under estimate how many people compete...you should check out MLG,ESL,Esport Heaven. thats a million or so players right there.

I've read it, the restrictions you listed would make the game boring if it would be so controlled and 20 vs 20 isn't even Planetside, don't you think?

Even then, 20 vs 20 is difficult to organize, not saying about making tournaments like this.

Yes, there are many people in e-sports but don't forget they are teams of ~5 players. Managing team of 5 people is already difficult, now imagine 20.

Now you can say it's like managing a guild in WoW, which is a normal thing. But to make a tournament in PS2, you would need to have at least 8-16 teams, which means 160-320 people. What is the chance those people would have time to come and play on time? This would need to be shoutcasted to be interesting, so there would need to be specific times to play. It takes 1 player missing or something to endanger the whole tournament.

It's really difficult to do this and I don't think ESL or MLG would go through so much hassle for game that's not well known already.

Tigersmith · 2012-05-31, 11:37 AM

How can it be unless they create a instanced part of the game..That's not what the game is about.

Why does every game have to be ESport Related now..I understand it brings big crowds to the game..Can the game just be popular and really for once?? god