NS Systems Ace from Twitter! - Page 6

Kipper · 2012-05-09, 09:03 AM

Seriously?

You are aware that you don't actually have to use this thing aren't you... I mean, its a graphic.... You'll activate it by clicking your mouse (or whatever) in the same way you activate your gun, get in your vehicle, respawn and everything else.

Some people have been smoking too much Auraxian space-weed.

SGTalon · 2012-05-09, 09:03 AM

I think the design is great. There is a reason that game controllers are designed like they are. To use that as a stepping stone for future tech is not a stretch to me.

My only concern is that i could never get those damn sequences right. left, right, circle, square, square, damn! BOOM!

LZachariah · 2012-05-09, 10:00 AM

I can't wait to use this thing

~Zachariah

Snipefrag · 2012-05-09, 10:07 AM

This sort of over analysis is really completely pointless, i'm sure the devs have put less thought into it than were discussing... but anyway I'll bite. Please mind that my comments are about the logical button layout of the current design, why the second row of buttons arn't 'pointless' as the initial poster described. Its not about production/resources required, lets stick to the original point.

Originally Posted by MrKWalmsley

Yeah, because a few millisecond delay from having to stretch your fingers a couple of inches to the right when placing a mine is going to be the difference between life and death. If your death is that immanent then there wouldn't even be enough time to escape from the blast radius. The time saved by there being two sets of buttons is practically inconsequential.

It's not just stretching your fingers. Buttons will be placed in order of priority use from left to right if your right handed and right to left if your left handed (because who wants to be using their pinky to push a button often, especially through gloves?). This could be fixed as you said by being able to flip the buttons (one row) or having two designs (L & R).. Neither of which the devs have gone for !

Originally Posted by MrKWalmsley

It could just as easily have been designed with all 5 required buttons in the centre, beginning to arch up. Power on one side X on the other, then O above that, then square next to it, then triangle above that. Simples.

see above.

Originally Posted by MrKWalmsley

Besides which they are made of nanite, so they do not require mass production and as such can be made specifically for the person ordering it, which is the case for player chosen sidegrades. Which do you think uses up more precious resources (and I should remind you, nanite is practically the most precious), using a design which unnecessarily caters for two types of people and uses up far more nanite (plus design space and weight) than what is needed, or simply having another program in the design computer which is an exact copy of a right handed version of the ACE, only mirrored?

From a production stand point that would make perfect, sense. But that's not what the devs have gone for, I'm simply stating there are perfectly logical reasons for the buttons to be laid out this way. Its not optimum design, but not without point.

Originally Posted by MrKWalmsley

..However I'm always willing to go after flawed apologetics

Me too, hence why your explanation about mobiles, keyboard, GPS units and remote controls as some sort of evidence of bad layout for this device grated.

Hamma · 2012-05-09, 10:44 AM

Did I miss something where this thing is going to be created in real life?

Last I checked this was an object in a virtual world.

"Suspend Disbelief"

Sabrak · 2012-05-09, 11:03 AM

Originally Posted by Hamma

Did I miss something where this thing is going to be created in real life?

Last I checked this was an object in a virtual world.

"Suspend Disbelief"

Yes, but we have to make sure that our virtual fingers will virtually press those virtual buttons correctly, or we won't be able to virtually deploy virtual manned turrets.

And then, you'd find yourself in some virtual shit.

(Or maybe not, which would mean some people might just be overreacting, and not even virtually)

Vancha · 2012-05-09, 11:20 AM

Originally Posted by Hamma

Did I miss something where this thing is going to be created in real life?

Last I checked this was an object in a virtual world.

"Suspend Disbelief"

And yet, this design is anything but conducive to "suspending disbelief" (I'm still assuming it's a troll).

Tikuto · 2012-05-09, 11:50 AM

Originally Posted by Ailos

Lololol. Engineers will get to play with ace. Literally.

lol'd

Snipefrag · 2012-05-09, 11:59 AM

Originally Posted by Hamma

Did I miss something where this thing is going to be created in real life?

Last I checked this was an object in a virtual world.

"Suspend Disbelief"

Yeah

, but as you guys talked about in the AGN its all about depth and immersion. If you don't believe an item like that would work in real life then its going to be hard to find the game immersive

!

TacosWLove · 2012-05-09, 12:39 PM

Haha! Common Guys! Really a Playstation Simon controller? And you really thing this will get people to play their PlayStation more? Well I never...

Edit: Ok, yes I have and it happens all the time.. but still

Udnknome · 2012-05-09, 01:27 PM

Originally Posted by Snipefrag

This sort of over analysis is really completely pointless, i'm sure the devs have put less thought into it than were discussing... but anyway I'll bite. Please mind that my comments are about the logical button layout of the current design, why the second row of buttons arn't 'pointless' as the initial poster described. Its not about production/resources required, lets stick to the original point.

It's not just stretching your fingers. Buttons will be placed in order of priority use from left to right if your right handed and right to left if your left handed (because who wants to be using their pinky to push a button often, especially through gloves?). This could be fixed as you said by being able to flip the buttons (one row) or having two designs (L & R).. Neither of which the devs have gone for !

OMG you are getting trolled!!!

see above.

From a production stand point that would make perfect, sense. But that's not what the devs have gone for, I'm simply stating there are perfectly logical reasons for the buttons to be laid out this way. Its not optimum design, but not without point.

Me too, hence why your explanation about mobiles, keyboard, GPS units and remote controls as some sort of evidence of bad layout for this device grated.

OMG you are getting trolled, how obvious does this have to be. Good one Snipe, really got people talking about... umm. nothing.

Raka Maru · 2012-05-09, 01:52 PM

I still want to purchase the speaker system.

Hermes · 2012-05-09, 02:02 PM

To add a reasoned opinion to this 'debate'...

This is awesome.

Kind regards,

Hermes

Xyntech · 2012-05-09, 02:07 PM

Originally Posted by Hermes

To add a reasoned opinion to this 'debate'...

This is awesome.

Kind regards,

Hermes

Counter argument:

It is not awesome.

It's fantastic.

I yield the floor.

Snipefrag · 2012-05-09, 02:33 PM

Originally Posted by Udnknome

OMG you are getting trolled, how obvious does this have to be. Good one Snipe, really got people talking about... umm. nothing.

No sir, we dont have trolls on these forums.. Just open debate as in this example. Unless you are hoping to audition, with your bright red text and size 5 font you're doing a good job so far ! Keep it up champ !