Smedley: "Bigots, homophobes, racists, anti-semites and general jerks not welcome"

[PredatorFour]

Now Smed has said this, where does it stop ?? I know a bunch of bigot `leet` outfits who will no doubt act the same as they did in PS 1. One so called greatest VS outfit once teamkilled me and continued to do so because i went to defend a VS hack on Dagda and it was `their` ground. Will these get named and shamed too? He`s opened up a can of worms with this statement. Who will police the servers ? Who is right or wrong when someone appeals in spite/or genuine grief ?

More importantly , how can you ban these people from playing when its free to play and they can just make a new char/outfit again ? Impossible surely. This is only food for the trolls. Smed should of realised this.

[Emperor Newt]

Just got to know about this and checked out some of the links. Found the following entry at the YouTube funeral bombing video:

"BuzzCutPsycho: Me? I'm glad that little shit is dead."

That's more telling then anything else posted in the reddit thread.
One could still argue that the funeral bombing was trolling, although that is hiiiiighly debateable. But this is not about being funny, not about being trolls. That's just about being an idiot, asshole or whatever you might call it.
No "smear campaign" needed.

[MaxDamage]

Every post of righteous indignation is a spoonful of attention for trolls, whom the majority of us would leave to rot.
We, as a people, know how to excommunicate these individuals.
We don't need to apply to people with badges to shut these people down, they shut themselves out.

[EisenKreutzer]

I don't really care wether the casual bigotry and hate is just a persona the outfit and their leader have adopted or not. They might be acting, they might not be. Either way they are still disgusting people. Whining about it isn't going to change anything, though. As long as they think theyre funny they are going to keep on doing it.

[Ipimpnoobs]

I think we should expose these types of people with their families, their personal addresses and fill out police/FBI reports so we can put them on the American Terrorist watch list. I've noticed most are from NA. These people can cause major damage to society and they make our public unsafe. Just look at the news.

Oh and it is against the law to incite violence and civil unrest. You can be federally prosecuted. Especially in any large media intermediaries. You can start by contacting the FCC and your local FBI representatives. Also, by law hamma will have to divulge all your contact information as well as IP address's and such.

I don't need to remind you what could happen to your lives if one of your victims kills themselves. You will waste your life rotting in jail, all because you wanted a cheap laugh at someone's expense. Grow up, think about your family and your future!

just my 2 cents

[MaxDamage]

Originally Posted by Ipimpnoobs

I think we should expose these types of people with their families, their personal addresses and fill out police/FBI reports so we can put them on the American Terrorist watch list. I've noticed most are from NA. These people can cause major damage to society and they make our public unsafe. Just look at the news.

Oh and it is against the law to incite violence and civil unrest. You can be federally prosecuted. Especially in any large media intermediaries. You can start by contacting the FCC and your local FBI representatives. Also, by law hamma will have to divulge all your contact information as well as IP address's and such.

I don't need to remind you what could happen to your lives if one of your victims kills themselves. You will waste your life rotting in jail, all because you wanted a cheap laugh at someone's expense. Grow up, think about your family and your future!

just my 2 cents

Hilarious thanks.
This is why sarcasm was invented.

[HeatLegend]

Originally Posted by MaxDamage

Hilarious thanks.
This is why sarcasm was invented.

I second that!

[MaxDamage]

Backlash over Smedley's post:

Apparently Anonymous/4chan and much of the Reddit reader base are offended by it's totalitarian and (racism is only racism against non-whites, sexism is only sexism against females) undertones.

I'm not saying I necessarily agree.
I just hope this doesn't hit Terran Republic numbers too hard. :]

Really people, we need to get people on the sidelines INTO the game so they can experience and enjoy it and make up their minds before stuff like this sways them elsewhere.

No one wants to play under the threat of a loaded gun, people lose their cool and say stuff they regret.
It's human. It's not always pretty. It happens.
(In that context this doesn't apply to the BuzzCutNympho guy who is a permatroll).

[ziegler]

I must say....I am alot more scared of SMedley's reaction and this communities reaaction than I am from buzzcut...I didnt bother to listen to or look at what was streamed or said.

I dont have to...why....because they are words and I am fully aware of what some take as offensive and it doesnt bother me...they are words.

Sticks and stones....but words....I'm pretty sure nobody on the internet was told this as a child anymore. But I was, and lo and behold, I havent been offended by anything anybody had to say about me or my kind since...well...since I was able to reach satisfaction with my own hand...some 30 odd years ago. But you kids, and smedly as well....you people scare the living fucking daylights out of me.

Ipimpnoobs.....So, you are a child exploiter who gives children to dirty old men for money? .......BAN HIM!

You DevilDogs....advocating the worship of satan...BAN THEM!!!.....


OR.....you could believe in the right to free speech. I would much rather these people openly express their beliefs so that I can identify them easliy and omit them from any meaningful place in my life.

Smedley....I hope someone sues you for discrimination for no other reason than to show you that when you starting defining what is and isnt offensive, it leads to no good ends. Are you going to ban every single instance of something offensive? What about regionality? If someone calls me an inbred redneck...can I report them for racist langauge? I find the term noob to be offensive and demeaning....what about that? ......


Again...you people so willing to persecute someone over words spoken scare me much more than the New Black Panthers, or CAIR or NOW or the KKK. All of which I put in the same pot or kettle.

[Baneblade]

Just log in and kill them. It isn't that hard.

[IronMole]

[Anderz]

Originally Posted by OrangeSoda

As of Saturday morning our Recruitment thread had 10k views, accumulated over a month or so. As of now we're at 15,263 views.

You bet your ass we are.

That's just everyone from Reddit wanting to see your leader's bigotry first hand.

I don't doubt you'll get a few extra recruits from this ordeal, but I'm willing to bet they'll all be scumbags. Scumbags who will, inevitably, slip up and drag your clan through yet another scandal. Before long, the members within your ranks -- or at least those will a shred of decency -- will grow tired of the drama and, one by one, they will leave in order to escape the vilification that comes with being associated with the Enclave.

[Ghoest9]

Good move by SOE.

It doesnt really matter if he was just being harmless edgy or if he meant it - SOE doesnt want to be associated with it.

[Stardouser]

As for the funeral thing, PS is a PVP GAME 100%. It may not be classy, but bannable? If SOE intends to provide official support to such an in game social event to the extent they would feel justified in banning people for attacking in a 100% PVP GAME, then it is incumbent upon them to set some ground rules. In game social functions like that should be discussed with your server's GM so that you can request support, such as the GMs turning off PVP for the area in which the social function is to be held.

[Aaron]

I don't mind Smed banning who he wants. He's got a good head on his shoulders.