Free Speech or Hate Symbol?

[afex]

Originally posted by Fire_Monkey
But, If one wants show their "Southern Pride" why don't they fly the Southern Battle flag, not the confederate flag made afterwards to combat civil rights. Yes thats right, the confederate flag today was only brought to combat the african-american civil rights movement. So Afex and other supporters of being able to fly both flags, if you believe in racism, and supporting it, then go ahead and fly your confederate flag.

like i said before, you can't base an argument off of ignorance and half-truths and expect to prove any sort of point to people who know what they are talking about.

[Fire_Monkey]

Half Truths... your ignorance is amusing, how can you expect to prove any point to me when you are ignorant, and think you're so superior, can't you think, and accept it whjen your wrong or do you have to spit out some kind retort wether or not you believe it. Look, you don't even specify, don't bother debating with me if you won't even back up your points.

[afex]

Originally posted by Lexington_Steele
I don't see insults as adding to your argument. They are for intimidation value. You hope top throw Fire_Monkey off ballance by making him angry.

That pretty much means means you are not interrested in discussing the issue, you are trying to "win" an argument by whatever means necessary.

If "winning" the argument is what is important to you, then by all means flame on.

selective reading....neat.

people dont put much worth to your posts when you quote 1/4th of mine to prove some sort of point

and the second thing you quoted is very true, no insults there. so maybe i should say 1/6th?

[Lexington_Steele]

Originally posted by afex
selective reading....neat.

people dont put much worth to your posts when you quote 1/4th of mine to prove some sort of point

and the second thing you quoted is very true, no insults there. so maybe i should say 1/6th?

I was commenting on your propensity to flame so I merely included all pertinent information. I appologise if you wanted me to bog down my post with all kinds of unpertinent information.

[afex]

Originally posted by Fire_Monkey
Half Truths... your ignorance is amusing, how can you expect to prove any point to me when you are ignorant, and think you're so superior, can't you think, and accept it whjen your wrong or do you have to spit out some kind retort wether or not you believe it. Look, you don't even specify, don't bother debating with me if you won't even back up your points.

if you honestly think that the confederate flag as we know it wasn't made until the 50's and 60's, then you are worse off than i imagined.

and now you're saying that i'm not bringing enough points to the argument? have you not read all of your posts in this thread?

[Lexington_Steele]

Originally posted by afex
i refuse to have this gun fight with you, b/c i see that you forgot to bring any ammo.

evidence? so now you're telling us that just b/c slavery happened while this flag was flown that the flag COULD represent slavery? with that logic the US flag COULD represent racial killings, priests having sex with kids, or millions of rapes. and damn that offends me, take it down.

i love how southern heritage "is slavery" to you. i guess nothing else happened then? just b/c you're "from the south" (barely) doesn't mean you have any idea what you are talking about.

your "opinion" is based on ignorance and your age is showing. go to school.

Originally posted by afex
evidence? so now you're telling us that just b/c slavery happened while this flag was flown that the flag COULD represent slavery? with that logic the US flag COULD represent racial killings, priests having sex with kids, or millions of rapes. and damn that offends me, take it down.

i love how southern heritage "is slavery" to you. i guess nothing else happened then? just b/c you're "from the south" (barely) doesn't mean you have any idea what you are talking about.

The first version is identical to the second except it contains a line in the begining and a line at the end that serve no purpose other than flameing.

Is this a better way to point out your flaming to you?

So does the middle portion magically negate the fact that you have a need to flame to make your points?

[Fire_Monkey]

The confederate flag was only shown as a demonstration against civil rights. If you go back before civil rights, there were no confederate flags as a part of any United States flag.

[afex]

Originally posted by Fire_Monkey
The confederate flag was only shown as a demonstration against civil rights. If you go back before civil rights, there were no confederate flags as a part of any United States flag.

it used to be it wasn't made till the civil rights movement and now its it wasn't "shown" until the civil rights movement. any other part of your argument you'd like to change?

i couldn't give a shit about whether a state has it as part of their state flag. we're talking about individuals rights to fly the confederate flag. (be it at homes, businesses, on their car, etc)

people have flown the confederate flag since the civil war, not governments.

[Fire_Monkey]

Minor discrepencies in my speech pattern have led you to believe in your superiority once again. If you'll notice all statements are in different relative context and thus make sense. The point is that if you wish to show this "southern pride" then fly the battle flag. Not the flag MODIFIED to combat the Civil Rights, of African-Americans.

[afex]

Originally posted by Lexington_Steele
The first version is identical to the second except it contains a line in the begining and a line at the end that serve no purpose other than flameing.

Is this a better way to point out your flaming to you?

So does the middle portion magically negate the fact that you have a need to flame to make your points?

theres that magic word, "have".

i dont "have" to use witty comments in my posts, i "choose" to. if i needed to flame to make a point, then thats all my posts would be composed of.

......

wait! omg! it totally looked like thats all i said when you quoted me! wow man, you rock at forums!

[Fire_Monkey]

Flame Away

[Hamma]

[afex]

Originally posted by Fire_Monkey
Minor discrepencies in my speech pattern have led you to believe in your superiority once again. If you'll notice all statements are in different relative context and thus make sense. The point is that if you wish to show this "southern pride" then fly the battle flag. Not the flag MODIFIED to combat the Civil Rights, of African-Americans.

you realize how rediculous you sound, right? "discrepencies in my speech pattern", haha. its too bad that makes absolutely no sense with regards to written word. you said what you meant, then changed it when you realized you were wrong.

the point is i should have the right to fly the confederate flag (also known as the confederate battle flag *gasp*) if i want to.

[Fire_Monkey]

Afex, I would begin to listen to your argument if you deceased from flaming me. Since you obviouisly don't want to prove your point you can continue to flame me all you like. Tough skin and all that eh?

[Lonehunter]

When I said it was heritage, not hate, I meant that the confederate flag was not designed for hate. What I mean by hate is racism. The south had slaves. So did the north, but they called them indentured servants. Where they gave them a ride to America in exchange for 5 to 10 years of work. The rebel flag was just that, a flag for rebels who didn't believe in the north's beliefs. They just wanted each state to govern themselves freely and things of that sort. I live in West Virginia. Full of rednecks and rebels. Every time an african-american person sees someone wearing a shirt with the rebel flag on they call that person a cracker and say he hates black people. I know somebody this happened to and his great grand pappy died in the civil war fighting for the south. He was proud of his heritage.