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View Poll Results: Do you want 3rd person on ground vehicles? | |||
Yes, full 3rd person on ground vehicles please, situational awareness is key in driving | 76 | 43.93% | |
Yes, but like in World of Tanks, only show those units that have actually been spotted | 16 | 9.25% | |
Maybe, but under very specific conditions: [...] | 11 | 6.36% | |
I don't really care either way | 16 | 9.25% | |
No 3rd person at all: remove it from aircraft also, otherwise it's an unfair advantage. | 28 | 16.18% | |
No 3rd person for GV: I'll gladly get run over by/collide with friendlies and stuck on terrain | 23 | 13.29% | |
Other | 3 | 1.73% | |
Voters: 173. You may not vote on this poll |
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2012-05-21, 03:46 PM | [Ignore Me] #76 | |||
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I have the sneaking suspicion you still won't. |
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2012-05-21, 04:16 PM | [Ignore Me] #77 | |||
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Amidst all the bad-tempered whining going on in various threads this little gem stands out amongst the shit. Well said, sir! Last edited by Mechzz; 2012-05-21 at 04:19 PM. |
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2012-05-21, 04:19 PM | [Ignore Me] #78 | |||
Lieutenant General
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No, no I didn't think you would try to collect evidence... |
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2012-05-21, 04:36 PM | [Ignore Me] #79 | ||
First Lieutenant
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Ya know, it was an honest question, but the fact that you have reacted with nothing but hostility towards anyone suggesting that the absence of 3PV might not be the end of the world makes any kind of discussion with you pointless.
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2012-05-21, 04:37 PM | [Ignore Me] #80 | |||
Lieutenant General
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"Will you shut up" isn't exactly a very inviting way to start a question, is it? As to the answer, why? I already know what it's like driving like that. I hate it for all the reasons mentioned before, including car sickness. Last edited by Figment; 2012-05-21 at 04:39 PM. |
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2012-05-21, 04:55 PM | [Ignore Me] #81 | ||||
First Lieutenant
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This isn't PS1, BF or World of Tanks, so stop making assumption just because you think "Well it might be crap in this game, so it has to be crap in every game." |
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2012-05-21, 06:08 PM | [Ignore Me] #84 | ||||
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No yet you assumed I would not reply in kind, interesting that, assumptions.
Then how can you possibly be against third person? YOU HAVE NOT SEEN IT.
Either you're ignorant, or you are a troll. Either way, you're not argueing very well. Do I get irritated by such show of deliberate, chosen ignorance? Damn right I do. Last edited by Figment; 2012-05-21 at 06:16 PM. |
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2012-05-21, 06:38 PM | [Ignore Me] #85 | |||
First Lieutenant
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2012-05-21, 06:52 PM | [Ignore Me] #86 | ||
Lieutenant General
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Yeah, that I'm highly irritable is quite obvious, but doesn't make me wrong.
PS: How about proving you're a lot more arrogant than I am since you have no way to back up any claims of the contrary, while I've got a ton of similar tank combat games AND alpha footage we all have access to? Funny how it works where you get to say "you can't know that", yet somehow you would be able to take a contrary position to mine. If I can't know anything, neither can you. EDIT: Hell, I can even provide you plenty of articles on motion sickness due to camera movement. Here's a few. http://xbox.about.com/od/buyersguide/a/vgmosick.htm http://kotaku.com/5869607/how-motion...ed-to-fight-it http://www.popularmechanics.com/tech...how-to/4219424 http://gamegenus.blogspot.com/2011/1...s-in-your.html Particularly FIRST PERSON VIEW is noted as the culprit for motion sickness, particularly when there's "head bobbing" type movements (like if in a tank, you go through a gutter and the camera shakes as your vehicle goes over small features in the landscape like ridges and rocks and then that is damped out through a vibration). That sort of thing. Third person prevents this and aleviates the effects. Just do a cursory search in Google and you'll find just how many people are affected by this, even in RPGs, but primarily while playing FPS games. Last edited by Figment; 2012-05-21 at 07:23 PM. |
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2012-05-21, 08:24 PM | [Ignore Me] #87 | |||
First Lieutenant
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Gotta be honest, I don't know a single person who ever complained about motion sickness in a game.
Have had it happen with movies, just never games. But see, this right there THAT is a proper arguement, not that crap about "I can't drive worth shit w/o 3PV!". And:
Funny thing how one of your arguements works out in my favor. |
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2012-05-21, 08:32 PM | [Ignore Me] #88 | ||
I felt ill on the bridge bit of HL2..........
Personally i'm against all third person. If it's gone to prevent corner campers then it should go from vehicles too. It would in my opinion make driving and flying a more skilled pursuit. I drive 1st person in racing sims and dont get motion sickness, but i also enjoy race circuits in real cars with no ill effect, but put me on a coach and i'll hurl. |
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2012-05-21, 08:35 PM | [Ignore Me] #89 | |||
First Lieutenant
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Yeah kiss that trick good bye if you get 3PV in ground vehicles. The situational awareness that you want shouldn't exist. Most RL tanks don't have that level of awareness, especially the drivers. They have this thing called a crew who watches their blind spots and calls out dangers. You know, teamwork? Last edited by Blackwolf; 2012-05-21 at 08:40 PM. |
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2012-05-21, 08:59 PM | [Ignore Me] #90 | ||
First Lieutenant
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I will admit that if the 1PV while driving really turns out to be more of a crutch then worth it, then I'll be the 1st to admit that I was wrong.
I will however only do that after we get a hands on, I don't care if there are hundreds of alpha videos around, a direct hands on is always better. P.S.: I will also say here for the record that I personally never had prolems with 1PV in the BF-games (each one I played atleast) nor did I have problems in PS1 driving a Lightning. I can, and will if asked, post a video of me driving a Lightning only using 1PV, but I still don't see a point in it. What's it gonna prove if I can? What about when I inevitably get owned, because I never was dedicated driver? |
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