HA Weapons - Page 6

captainkapautz · 2012-06-16, 05:52 AM

Originally Posted by Sabot

But still.. energy discharge > projectiles. And I do believe the Lancer is described as a 'beam weapon'.

I agree with this.

The more of a disco lightshow you guys put out, the easier it is to home in on you.

Shade Millith · 2012-06-16, 06:10 AM

Originally Posted by kaffis

Maybe lasher orbs will make dubstep "wub wub" sounds as they float past...

Like the Rave Gun? Starts at 0:40

Ironside · 2012-06-16, 06:22 AM

why is everyone saying all HA is gonna be underslung?
from the vid i watched higby said HA wasn't in yet cos they hadnt done the underslung animations for the MCG, he never mentioned lasher or noobhammer, did i miss summat?

SKYeXile · 2012-06-16, 06:32 AM

Originally Posted by Ironside

why is everyone saying all HA is gonna be underslung?
from the vid i watched higby said HA wasn't in yet cos they hadnt done the underslung animations for the MCG, he never mentioned lasher or noobhammer, did i miss summat?

yes, all HA weapons are under slung now.

Mr DeCastellac · 2012-06-16, 02:41 PM

Originally Posted by Bags

And if you're "not in the mood to start a big fight" why even post on a discussion board? Isn't the point to discuss?

There is a big difference between a fight and a discussion. It started out as a discussion, and you're turning it into a fight.

I'd also like to point out that nothing about a laser specifies that it has to be a solid, continuous beam.

I'll try to keep this informative.
L.A.S.E.R. stands for "Light amplification by stimulated emission of radiation".
Nothing about that says it can't be a circular emission. As we all know, the speed of light is the absolute limit of speed, and thus is extremely fast. In theory, if you were to slow down a 'video' of a laser, and have a mechanism that would turn the laser on for a miniscule fraction of a second (so that it stops emitting almost immediately after it starts), you would observe that the laser does indeed shoot out as just a "laser dot", as you would say. (Though 'dot' implies a two-dimensional space. I would call them laser spheres or orbs.)

So yes, to end this little fight before it grows any larger, we DO have laser guns. They just might not fire a continuous beam.

dyslecix · 2012-06-16, 05:12 PM

Originally Posted by Shade Millith

Like the Rave Gun? Starts at 0:40
Tribute to Battlezone: RAVE GUN! - YouTube

Haha ya cool - I'm a battlezone 2 veteran. Those were the days - I remember great fun with that thing man

dyslecix · 2012-06-16, 05:15 PM

Originally Posted by Ironside

why is everyone saying all HA is gonna be underslung?
from the vid i watched higby said HA wasn't in yet cos they hadnt done the underslung animations for the MCG, he never mentioned lasher or noobhammer, did i miss summat?

I can't imagine them being anything else. I think they will all be Underslung. And I think there will also be a serious drawback to them, I think you'll have to run alot slower when carrying it, but that's my speculation. I don't think there's any other way of balancing these weapons without doing something like this - At the current state of the TTK that is.

Trafalgar · 2012-06-16, 05:16 PM

In case you haven't noticed, you can't see laser beams in the air without a fair amount of particles for them to collide with, so if it was a laser, even fired in pulses or 'bolts' or whatever you want to call it, it wouldn't be visible unless you were firing in something like a fog or some kind of ash/sand/whatever storm (which would reduce its effectiveness, in addition to making it visible).

Badjuju · 2012-06-16, 06:25 PM

Originally Posted by Trafalgar

In case you haven't noticed, you can't see laser beams in the air without a fair amount of particles for them to collide with, so if it was a laser, even fired in pulses or 'bolts' or whatever you want to call it, it wouldn't be visible unless you were firing in something like a fog or some kind of ash/sand/whatever storm (which would reduce its effectiveness, in addition to making it visible).

This isn't true for all lasers depending on the beams characteristics. Regardless I believe they had said they were "energy" weapons and not lasers. So they could be some super charged/ionized particles or something, who knows. I would like to see them call it plasma or give a side grade option for plasma rounds that would retain their damage but suffer from bullet drop.

Trafalgar · 2012-06-16, 06:55 PM

I'd like to see lasers used to ionize the air between the gun and the target, and then throw out an electric charge to zap whatever it's targeting into submission

Edit: I think my brain is starting to malfunction from lack of sleep. I wrote a second sentence completely unrelated to the first, which had nothing to do with anything and sounded like it should have come after something else, and I couldn't figure where it came from.

Top Sgt · 2012-06-16, 07:28 PM

Originally Posted by SKYeXile

yes, all HA weapons are under slung now.

ohh wow I didn't know this I thought heavy's would have a choice between the underslung and standard assault rifle's etc

GreatMazinkaise · 2012-06-16, 07:36 PM

Originally Posted by Top Sgt

ohh wow I didn't know this I thought heavy's would have a choice between the underslung and standard assault rifle's etc

Heavy Assault is a weapon type designation... unfortunately they decided to name a class this as well in PS2, hence the confusion.

HA refers specifically to the respective BFGs of all three empires, the instagibbing Jackhammer, the versatile Lasher, and the bulletspamming Mini-Chaingun.

Professor Frink · 2012-06-20, 10:29 PM

Id be happy with them transferring the 3 HA weapons from PS1 as they are right now. Each of them is far from perfect. The Lasher will look much less goofy underslung than it did before.

SKYeXile · 2012-06-20, 10:32 PM

Originally Posted by Top Sgt

ohh wow I didn't know this I thought heavy's would have a choice between the underslung and standard assault rifle's etc

err sorry change in terms. I was refering to the lasher, JH and MCG as HA weapons. :/ their LMGs would still be shoulder fire.

SKYeXile · 2012-06-20, 10:34 PM

Originally Posted by GreatMazinkaise

Heavy Assault is a weapon type designation... unfortunately they decided to name a class this as well in PS2, hence the confusion.

HA refers specifically to the respective BFGs of all three empires, the instagibbing Jackhammer, the versatile Lasher, and the bulletspamming Mini-Chaingun.

should have named the heavy assault like reinforced assault.