Gore Pack Idea - Page 6

berzerkerking · 2012-08-04, 01:12 PM

Originally Posted by Masterr

Aliens vs Predator(2010)- My favorite trophy kill

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It's a paid option

I'm not even going to buy it if it's made but i don't see any reason why not.

Syphus · 2012-08-04, 01:17 PM

Originally Posted by IDukeNukeml

There is absolutely ZERO reason to have gore in games. It is uncalled for, it desesitizes kids AND adults who are playing and it is ALWAYS completely inaccurate.

If you want to see gore, join the army and volunteer for a high-risk Afghanistan mission. You will see all the gore you want.

SOE, keep it out of the damn games. It's just completely uncalled for... in a purchasable or otherwise.

Says the Duke Nukem guy...not sure if I can handle the irony.

Drakkonan · 2012-08-04, 01:23 PM

I'm typically a fan of this method of increasing immersion, but I really don't think it has a place in this game. Even as a cash-shop option, something like gore requires too much work to not go into the full game for everyone to experience. Hell, the engine might not even support it efficiently enough to make it feasible to implement.

Gugabalog · 2012-08-04, 01:37 PM

That would be apart of it being client side wouldn't it? (I don't know much about networking or coding)

Blackwolf · 2012-08-04, 01:40 PM

The game just doesn't need it. Such an addition would be illegal in many countries. And Kids would have zero problems getting their hands on it.

Whether or not it desensitizes them, you have to respect their parent's wishes.

I'd rather see work done towards Buggies then gore personally. There are so many other things that would benefit the game more then gore would, it's not even funny.

Bittermen · 2012-08-04, 01:41 PM

Originally Posted by Sephirex

While I don't disagree with your point, I suddenly had an image of a father coming upon children and playing cops and robbers, and pouring buckets of blood on the kids that had been 'shot', screaming "This what happens!"

The thought alone gave me the chuckles.

good point lmao

Graf · 2012-08-04, 01:48 PM

SOE should do whatever makes them money. It is a company after all, and the point of owning a buisness or company is to make money. If nobody wants it, they won't make it. If it damages their client base, they won't make it. If they can makes something that will make more money they will make that instead or before a gore pack. If people want it, and it would make SOE more money then another idea, they will make it in such away that it does not damage the player base. They should do whatever makes them money, and if you don't like what they sell don't buy it.

wasdie · 2012-08-04, 01:53 PM

Shogun 2 Total War did it. For legal reasons, they sold it as cheap as possible but they still had to charge for it.

I don't think that SOE is going to bother with that right away, but it's something they could throw down later. For like $5, I would probably get it.

Blackwolf · 2012-08-04, 02:24 PM

Originally Posted by Graf

SOE should do whatever makes them money. It is a company after all, and the point of owning a buisness or company is to make money. If nobody wants it, they won't make it. If it damages their client base, they won't make it. If they can makes something that will make more money they will make that instead or before a gore pack. If people want it, and it would make SOE more money then another idea, they will make it in such away that it does not damage the player base. They should do whatever makes them money, and if you don't like what they sell don't buy it.

Bit more complicated then that.

There are things that they could spend that time on that might not make them money but would improve game play and keep players interested thus increasing the potential for money.

Gore is something that would make them a bit of money, but it wouldn't really impact the game as a whole. Buggies would. Everyone would benefit from buggies while only a select number of people would enjoy (not benefit from) gore.

IMO gore puts too much emphasis on killing other players. Something that isn't as important in a game like PS which is geared towards unified fronts and teamwork to accomplish objectives using logistics and coordination rather then random charges into battle. It wouldn't impact the game negatively or positively, except when it comes down to developer time spent on it rather then on things that would actually impact the game itself. It becomes a money/time sink. Yes there are things in the game that are arguably the same thing, such as hood ornaments. But everyone else can see your hood ornament. No one else can see your gore. And the amount of time it takes to create a hood ornament and stick it onto a vehicle is probably limited to a couple of hours while gore (done well) could take several weeks of animation time.

MercDT · 2012-08-04, 02:25 PM

How would gore work in the first place with the current revive system? I mean I take it you guys are referring to dismemberment when you say gore.

Though some simple yet not crappy blood effects wouldn't really hurt the game IMO.

opticalshadow · 2012-08-04, 02:29 PM

Originally Posted by Blackwolf

Bit more complicated then that.

There are things that they could spend that time on that might not make them money but would improve game play and keep players interested thus increasing the potential for money.

Gore is something that would make them a bit of money, but it wouldn't really impact the game as a whole. Buggies would. Everyone would benefit from buggies while only a select number of people would enjoy (not benefit from) gore.

but the thing is, buggies cant be a cash shop item, or it breaks their no pay for power. gore, liek camo, which has ZERO impact or effect on gameplay, is somethign people might want to buy.

this is a F2P game, adding buggies to teh game gets people playing maybe, but it still hasnt made money, people have to want to buy something for them to make money, a cosmetic effect is just that.

skins in LoL have zero game impact, but they are why riot makes so much

Sledgecrushr · 2012-08-04, 02:30 PM

Im thinking gore like in cs. You see blood when you shoot someone and when you shoot someone standing against a wall you get a nice splash effect.

Marinealver · 2012-08-04, 02:48 PM

Can imagine achainblade assianation which results in a decapitation.

As much as I don't care if it is rated M or not, (as yhe M ratting dosn't stop 6 year olds from playing HAL0) I think the marketing strategy is to keep it as faimly friendly (if you consider the mass killings of others friendly) as possible

but I did wonder how come the CGI trailer was so gorey? I mean you saw all the blood spray from the TR in the galaxy as they got shot by the NC LA with some sort of armor shoot through rounds. That wasn't PG.

opticalshadow · 2012-08-04, 03:27 PM

Originally Posted by Marinealver

Can imagine achainblade assianation which results in a decapitation.

As much as I don't care if it is rated M or not, (as yhe M ratting dosn't stop 6 year olds from playing HAL0) I think the marketing strategy is to keep it as faimly friendly (if you consider the mass killings of others friendly) as possible

but I did wonder how come the CGI trailer was so gorey? I mean you saw all the blood spray from the TR in the galaxy as they got shot by the NC LA with some sort of armor shoot through rounds. That wasn't PG.

because the rating systems are stupid, and a scapegoat lazy parents make about kids.

your already killing people, but no, we cant make it to life like. because being humans already doesnt do that.

RageMasterUK · 2012-08-04, 04:01 PM

When I said that players should hemmorage red nanites, that was a joke. Cant believe people picked me up on that and actually took me seriously.

I laughed.... HARD

I will start putting "That was a joke" after every joke now...

Those in the non-gore group, haven't you ever seen a game which says "Online experience subject to change and is not rated"? The ratings agencies are fully aware of the fact people download stuff after they've bought the game so thats why they put that in, to cover their own back from DLC and modded content.

Someone already mentioned Shogun Total War 2 blood pack. The rating only seems to apply to gaming products at launch, and always seem to contain the above caveat if there's an online function to it. They dont want to have to go back and revisit a product and re-rate. I dont blame them.

If people dont want bloods thats fine. Some people are talking on behalf of everyone else tho. Can't you accept and accomodate for an individuals choice? The emphasis in Planetside 2 is already FIRMLY on killing other players by the way.

It would not be very difficult to stop the bloodpack appearing in other contries downloadable lists.

Blood textures may well take a week to do well, but will reach out to more people than a faction specific hood ornament, or yay buggies. There is a massive market for gory games. If you took the gore out of Gears of War franchise or Resident evil or Quake or Unreal Tournament, how many would buy it? The gore loving playerbase is right there just waiting to be unlocked. For ceirtain SOE will release PS2 without gore but you can trust that SOE have atleast considered a gore-pack as a monetization option. They are not fools.

SledgCrusher Im thinking of the gore that you're thinking of. Not gibs.... gore. Red mist on impact and splash textures on the surfaces near shot players, smearmarks on the sand for roadkills, nothing rediculously OTT like fatalities and that jazz.

Someone mentioned buggies won't be a cash item. This is true. The money SOE would make however is through the extensive cert tree and sidegraded weapons that would accompany such a buggy.

-RageMasterUK