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Old 2004-10-10, 08:47 PM   [Ignore Me] #91
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Killing people is not griefing. In PS you can still kill the annoying bastards on your team, but you get penalized. Not having the option at all is not goin to fly with me.
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Old 2004-10-10, 08:55 PM   [Ignore Me] #92
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Its called /ignore and /petition.

And working out your fucking differences by something other then "pwning" someone in a virtual world.
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Old 2004-10-10, 08:57 PM   [Ignore Me] #93
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Make a full PVP server, team PVP server, and no PVP server.

PROBLEM. FUCKING. SOLVED.
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Old 2004-10-10, 09:00 PM   [Ignore Me] #94
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I would be scared for my fucking life playing on a full pvp server with bnet people
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Old 2004-10-10, 09:41 PM   [Ignore Me] #95
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Originally Posted by Gohan
I think you contridicted yourself.


You want a game to not limit you so that you can run around ganking newbies on your OWN TEAM yet you say any game that creates an environment for griefers sucks.


Here, watch this video before you rip on shit:

http://www.rpgfilms.net/nuke/modules...p=getit&lid=70
I love the Setz and Plexx movies, heres the first one:

http://www.warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=42

Also, if you guys want to see more PvP videos, or just WoW videos; let me know.
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Old 2004-10-10, 10:14 PM   [Ignore Me] #96
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I watched the 2 EQ 2 movies originally posted by SDM. The graphics look nice, but everything else looks bland and unoriginal. I'd also probably get very annoyed by having to listen to "Hey there! I have the finest goods to offer this side of Norrath!".
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Old 2004-10-11, 12:09 AM   [Ignore Me] #97
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Originally Posted by Lonehunter187
EQ with no PvP, man where have you been?
exactly my point.






wonder why i never layed my hands on EQ1


EDIT: and Sal. i would love to see more WoW pvp and gameplay movies...if you can post some links
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Old 2004-10-11, 06:59 AM   [Ignore Me] #98
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Sure:

http://ftp.estpak.ee/pub/cool.hot.ee/videos/WoW/?M=D
www.warcraftmovies.com

PvP:
http://ftp.estpak.ee/pub/cool.hot.ee...ewbHunter1.avi
http://ftp.estpak.ee/pub/cool.hot.ee...ewbHunter2.avi
http://ftp.estpak.ee/pub/cool.hot.ee...ho_4tehwin.avi
http://ftp.estpak.ee/pub/cool.hot.ee...nurfedview.avi
http://ftp.estpak.ee/pub/cool.hot.ee...aidtoxroad.avi
http://www.warcraftmovies.com/viewcategory.php?id=1
www.die-guild.org (needs registration, they used to have about 35 movies, but for some reason they took em all down, don't bother with diepvp1 and 2, but 3 and the rest are good)
http://nurfed.com/videos.php?category=wow (one of the best PvP guilds, "Indal's warrior Pwnage" is a PvE movie of a pre-nurfed warrior fighting lv 56-57 mobs)

Edit: "The big one" on www.die-guild.org is the movie of the raid I linked on the previous page, its about 280 mb and 36 min long

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Old 2004-10-11, 07:35 AM   [Ignore Me] #99
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Thank you good sir, now I have something to do after school today
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Old 2004-10-11, 08:34 AM   [Ignore Me] #100
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Originally Posted by Gohan
Thank you good sir, now I have something to do after school today
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Old 2004-10-11, 10:45 AM   [Ignore Me] #101
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This thread was derailed and then re-railed. I'm surprised it's still talking about EQ2.

Anyway, what people have said have been valid points; however, they are not valid enough to make someone want to play EQ2 over WoW.

First off: The company. Blizzard (so far, knock on wood) has never fumbled a game. Every game they have ever released has been rock solid and a huge seller.

Secondly: WoW won't be full of 'bnet kiddies.' It's pay to play on a monthly fee; most kiddies can't get their mommies to pay that. Trust me. EQ2, however, will be full of the EQ addicts (which include the kids who have stolen their parents money just to play). The game will be fun for maybe 2 months, and then it will die because of all the EQ addicts who powerlevel the game just to be first to the level cap.

Thirdly: This relates to point number one. Even if Vivendi told Blizzard to rush WoW, they won't. Blizzard is smart enough to know not to rush a game. They just won't do it. If it releases in November or December, it'll be because the game is finished by Blizzard's standards. (Hint hint: WoW open beta is soon, meaning Blizzard is nearing the final stages.)

If I think of more points, I'll be sure to chime in.
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Old 2004-10-11, 01:20 PM   [Ignore Me] #102
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^^good points

and i can't wait for Open beta...should be in about 2 weeks hopefully....with sign ups this week sometime

in other news, i'm going to try Matrix Online beta soon.....i'm not expecting much. I think it looks lame as lame can get.
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Old 2004-10-11, 02:36 PM   [Ignore Me] #103
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Originally Posted by Strygun
This thread was derailed and then re-railed. I'm surprised it's still talking about EQ2.

Anyway, what people have said have been valid points; however, they are not valid enough to make someone want to play EQ2 over WoW.

First off: The company. Blizzard (so far, knock on wood) has never fumbled a game. Every game they have ever released has been rock solid and a huge seller.
Agreed, they have done well, save tha balnce issues with thier RPG games. That has me SLIGHTLY worried.

Secondly: WoW won't be full of 'bnet kiddies.' It's pay to play on a monthly fee; most kiddies can't get their mommies to pay that. Trust me. EQ2, however, will be full of the EQ addicts (which include the kids who have stolen their parents money just to play). The game will be fun for maybe 2 months, and then it will die because of all the EQ addicts who powerlevel the game just to be first to the level cap.
Save the first part of the EQ prediction, I think is assanine to say that EQ will have more Power-playing level whores than WoW. It should be roughly equal. The good news is that it only takes around 3-4 weeks to get to 50 and then quite a bit longer to get to 60. So its faster than EQ. I dont think that lvl 60's will kill the game.

Thirdly: This relates to point number one. Even if Vivendi told Blizzard to rush WoW, they won't. Blizzard is smart enough to know not to rush a game. They just won't do it. If it releases in November or December, it'll be because the game is finished by Blizzard's standards. (Hint hint: WoW open beta is soon, meaning Blizzard is nearing the final stages.)

If I think of more points, I'll be sure to chime in.
They are rushing the game. Thier time tables have been accelerated dramatically, look at the patch history, we were getting one every ~6 weeks, and now we have gotten 2 in the last 3 weeks. You could attribute this to the fact that the game is "near" release, however the push happened about the same time VU announced that WoW would release mid Q4 this year. They are being rushed and it wont be polished. Now for some proof.


Clicky

Ill pick just ONE of them:
11) Does Blizzard realize that the Horde is still lacking in the fun & fluff department (like the Alliance's vendors that sell holdable flowers, or their master chef vendor that sells many recipes, etc.)?
We do realize that such features are few and far between for the Horde at the moment. While we probably will not get such items in by release, the Horde should receive more attention on this front when we add such things in post-launch.

However, in addition to high level content and raids, we are focusing on Horde content in Kalimdor.


Horde not getting full attention till AFTER release. And they plan to add things in post launch. Hmmm doesnt sound like thier normal polishing.

While this post comes off as really negative, I have full faith in blizzard's ability to put out and maintain a quality game. But they ARE being rushed, witch is
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Old 2004-10-11, 03:04 PM   [Ignore Me] #104
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^about the last concern with patching after release...

Patching and finishing things up after release is NORMAL for MMO games. Maybe it shouldn't be, but name a game that had EVERYTHING, you wanted at release. It's impossible, b/c MMO games are an unfolding story and patches are a monthly thing with new releases and chapters. I don't look at this as a negative thing for blizzard.

I have full faith in blizzard's leap into the MMO world.
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Old 2004-10-11, 03:33 PM   [Ignore Me] #105
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Originally Posted by Gohan
Its called /ignore and /petition.

And working out your fucking differences by something other then "pwning" someone in a virtual world.
Has nothing to do with pwning, I just prefer to solve my own problems rather than run to some guy paid to listen to people whine all day to solve it for me.
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