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Wealth redistribution is not what the government does, at least not in the sense that people think of when wealth is redistributed. So take less money from everyone.
So really, lowering the tax burden on everyone is a massive stimulus to businesses and consumers. The dollar's inflation would plateau and possibly reverse course. You can't stop a wealthy class from existing without going full on down the socialist/communist path.
Anyway, progressive tax systems are designed to fix a flaw that is social and not economic. Under my system, the rich would still have a significantly larger tax burden (by percentage) than the less than wealthy or the 'poor'. It just wouldn't be an income tax. My system would tax wealthy individuals that don't have an income. |
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If you truly believe that works, you have absolutely no sense of judgement of people. Though that's quite apparant anyway. |
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[Ignore Me] #93 | ||||
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So you can adjust your judgement and accusations that direction. Secondly,
Do you realize what you're saying? You're saying you want one big government. One big government that is centralized. One place where all the decisions are made. One place where the religious right can try to trounce on the rights of all people. One place where Monsanto can slime their way in to get their crops ignored by the nations Food and Drug Administration. One place where they can ruin our children's future with something like No Child Left Behind. One place where those in power can strip ALL of our rights one by one and have a force so vast and fortresses so tall that you can't say boo about it. Is that what you want? If you separate where and how laws are passed, it makes it harder for these groups to come and take over the country. They would have to take it over state by state instead. Divided we fall, together we suffocate. Work as a team, stay separate, and we prosper. They're treading all over us and you're grinning and asking for more. Last edited by Shanesan; 2012-04-15 at 12:16 AM. |
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I am all for the separation of powers in government. Without a counterbalance you will eventually come to a monopoly, just as you do in the markets. Separation of power turns selfish ends against itself (to a degree) through accountability...(not to dig up a dead body), but back when Americans were actually free to do what they wanted as long as they had consent of the parties involved (pre-social insurance/federal reserve/income tax era), I suspect that was the reason for the 2nd ammendment; counter-balance of power from a government disregarding the will of the people.
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[Ignore Me] #98 | |||||||
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He's deliberately ignoring the point or pretending he doesn't get it as he is continuously replying to and with a stupidity, as usual.
Consider that I would suggest a government of actual percentile representation. The religious extremist would be a stupidly small group to consider then. You know, where your vote goes to the person you voted for and not to that of the other party because they got more locals rooting for them and politically applied district lines do not matter AT ALL in determining the outcome of elections.
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[Ignore Me] #99 | ||
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Malorn, you do realise that absolute capitalism gave rise to communism as a counter-force because it created an exploitation of workforce?
Strange concept as it may sound to you, but having a bit more social responsible free market economy prevents communism from getting strong support. Taking care of your fellow countrymen when able to is actually not just fair, it's a moral responsibility and a tool to improve the economy and the effectiveness of your employees. And in the end you, your economy and your company benefit greatly from motivated, wealthy employees who feel appreciated, secure and are not stressed because of job insecurity, healthcare issues, having to lick the higher up's arses (meaning bad decision making is questioned) and that people aren't exploited for their money - like your whole banking system which is the exact opposite and resulted in great economic and social malpractice. Pure, unbridled capitalism corrupts. The current economic poor climate has been created in the USA by banking systems that are completely capitalist in setup without any remorse or concern for selling bad products to people using lies. Your ideal society is ran by Goldman & Sachs? Because with a free market without any regulation to prevent excesses and exploitation, you will run into these situations. What do you think for instance of hatch funds that buy up companies just to make a short term profit by selling all their assets individualy to the highest bidder? The companies, employees and social impact of the destruction of these companies for short term gains is not beneficial to society or the economy. The only ones profiting from this are the hatch funds and they don't contribute much to the economy. Hatch funds, a product of unregulated free market stock exchange, are counter to the "American Dream" where you can make it if you just work hard: you will be bought and sold out whenever the opportunity arises. That is NOT what good business is all about and it is not rewarding for those people who worked hard to get that company to the point it becomes interesting to split it up and get as much money out of the real estate et all as possible. Companies are not created with the intend to be cut into pieces at the first opportunity to make short term gains for the elite few. A world that only thinks in individualist ways without regards for the bigger picture will end up destroying itself. Freedom for the individual is great, but it should not cost every other individual. Because if you didn't realise it yet, society is made up of individuals that form groups, peoples, nations and economies, together. Last edited by Figment; 2012-04-16 at 08:02 AM. |
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[Ignore Me] #100 | |||
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Commenting on your thing about congress, I like what Rick Perry wanted to do with them. Granted I think he was a general idiot, but I liked his idea of what he wanted congress to be. Congress was never supposed to be a full time job with endless lucrative benefits and a damn nice pay. You were meant to be an expert in whatever field you were in and serve your government and provide advice when needed and then go back to your job and let someone else get in. Now we have a ton of really old guys who are stubborn and wont die or leave office to a new face (regardless of political affiliation).
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[Ignore Me] #102 | |||
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That is one thing that just infuriates the hell out of me when it comes to politics. This last few years has just been an unbelievably fucked-up-stupid-nightmare. (I'm talking more about the banks and congress.) |
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[Ignore Me] #105 | |||||
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Here is the pledge in to what one signs:
http://www.atr.org/taxpayer-protection-pledge US Senate/House Pledge:
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