General Hawley's speech - Page 7

SilentCacophony · 2003-02-21, 06:29 PM

lol, yes, the U.S. has nothing to do with it. You're hands are completely clean. They are only allowed to trade a certain amount of oil, and the U.S. refuses to trade with them. Nice to know you at least read it, which is probably more than I can say for some people.

As for where I'm from, I'm from Canada. As for education, Canada outranks the U.S., hate to break it to you. Hell, you can't even spell muslim. If you're going to harp on a religon, as well as the education of others, at least learn to spell first.

Sputty · 2003-02-21, 06:31 PM

So am I. First person to flame Canada gets...fgsnlnfdsa...

Incompetent · 2003-02-21, 06:33 PM

/me holds off a fearsome barrage against canada for fear of Sputties reprisal

Navaron · 2003-02-21, 06:33 PM

"One second Navaron is claiming the U.S. is the number one supplier of food and medicine to Iraq, and now he's agreeing with me that they don't give them squat"

WTF are you talking about?

"You guys are SOOOO concerned for the people, and yet you know nothing of what is happening to them, but you do know that Saddam bought a new watch and how much it's worth, cause THAT'S what's important right. So he can know what time it is when you guys ride in to save Iraq? Sorry, but the U.S. is Iraq's real oppressors."

No, see I don't care about saving the Iraqi people all that much. I'm all for these people being safe and living a free and un oppressed life, but I'd rather be safe myself. If we get hussein out of there, then we don't have to worry about either problem now do we? If it was just about these people, then I'd say it's a job for the UN.

SilentCacophony · 2003-02-21, 06:33 PM

hmmmm, no, the U.S. doesn't manipulate the way the war is seen back home.....

"When a Scud missile eventually hit American troops during the ground war, reporters raced to the scene. The 1,000 pound warhead landed on a makeshift barracks for Pennsylvania national guard troops near the Saudi seaport of Dahran. Scott Applewhite, a photographer for the Associated Press, was one of the first on the scene. There were more than 25 dead bodies and 70 badly wounded. As Applewhite photographed the carnage, he was approached by U.S. Military Police who ordered him to leave. He produced credentials that entitled him to be there. But the soldiers punched Applewhite, handcuffed him and ripped the film from his cameras. More than 70 reporters were arrested, detained, threatened at gunpoint and literally chased from the frontlines when they attempted to defy Pentagon rules. Army public affairs officers made nightly visits to hotels and restaurants in Hafir al Batin, a Saudi town on the Iraq border. Reporters and photographers usually bolted from the dinner table. Slower ones were arrested."

from the site I mentioned last.

Unregistered · 2003-02-21, 06:35 PM

Originally posted by SilentCacophony
What bodies?

http://www.digitaljournalist.org/issue0211/sloyan.html

But hey, I guess if it goes against navaron's arguments, he's not going to buy it.

WOW!!

This is a first. Your actually saying something based on fact!!! Unfortunatly you don't understand what you read, and you contridict yourself again.

First: This is pretty much common knowledge, and is concidered a brilliant Military Strategy by pretty much everyone.

Second: In previous posts you have said that Americans were Evil for killing Civillians, Now we are evil for killing Enemy Soldiers, that invaded Kauwit

I am getting confused here.

It's OK for Saddam to Invade other countries and kill civillains. When the U.S. comes to the aid of those other countries we should not kill the invading armies soldiers?

Why is it OK for Saddam to Kill people but not for the U.S.?

Incompetent · 2003-02-21, 06:35 PM

yes, god forbid they don't want the mangled bodies of their friends on national television, where people like you would dishonor there memory.
edit:dumbass spelling mistake

Navaron · 2003-02-21, 06:42 PM

LMFAO!!!!!!

You said we buried Iraqis, insinuating that we we're burying citizens, not fucking combatents. The fact they were still shootin as they were buried is funny as shit.

You do realize how irresponsable the American press is? You also realize that we are one of the few countries that allow reporters in actual frontline conflict, not in the war- but in the conflict.

Sure you do. You're perfect.

"and the U.S. refuses to trade with them"

WTF? ? ? Now we have to buy oil from our enemies too? Who made that fucking rule?

"As for where I'm from, I'm from Canada. As for education, Canada outranks the U.S., hate to break it to you."

Well apparently, FACTS are your schools strong suit. Insult us all day, you still got your ass handed to you by a buncha illiterate Americans. Apparently the use of FACTS has been proven to defeat bullheaded socialist arguement's worldwide.

Unregistered · 2003-02-21, 06:46 PM

I just want to know how well you did in your U.S. History class, since your posts indicate that either A) They don't teach it Canada, or B) you failed it.

Navaron · 2003-02-21, 06:47 PM

SilentCacophony · 2003-02-21, 06:48 PM

Originally posted by {BOHICA}Navaron

All hail silent the fact generator. Newsflach buddy, not only do we give them hard cold cash, we are the NUMBER 1 SUPPLIER OF MEDICINE TO THE IRAQI PEOPLE.

There, you said they were the #1 supplier. Then you said:

Originally posted by {BOHICA}Navaron
Those kids dying aren't the US's fault. If a meglomaniac would disarm like he agreed too, then there wouldn't be an international embargo would there?

All of a sudden you're agreeing with me that there's an embargo and that the U.S. DOESN'T give them medicine (don't say you're not, cause that's what the embargo is, which you acknowledged). The fact you said you give them cold hard cash is even more laughable. What would they want with American money when they can't even spend it in america? I guess you just bought Saddam that new watch you're bragging about him having.

That PDF file you sent me starts with Tony Blair's statement (in the table of contents) of him saying the war is with Saddam, not Iraq. So why is there an embargo on Iraq? Why don't you just not give any robutussin to Saddam?

Navaron · 2003-02-21, 06:51 PM

And you proved that you don't know what you're talking about better than anyone here could have.

We are the number one supplier of medicine. If you had a mild clue about the embargo, you'd know medicine, food and several other essentials for civilian life are not included in the embargo. Don't call me a hypocrite when the real problem is your obvious ignorance.

ABRAXAAS · 2003-02-21, 06:52 PM

This thread is nearing criticle mass

Incompetent · 2003-02-21, 06:52 PM

you try to embargo a person

Unregistered · 2003-02-21, 06:53 PM

There has never been a question as to weather or not there are trade sanctions against Iraq. There are, and we are all well aware of them.

What is in question is your understanding of those sanctions.

They specificly do not put any sanctions on the import of Food or Medicine to Iraq. They do however do not allow the Millitary, or Duel use materials to be sent to Iraq.

Now I know it's hard for you to understand, but I doubt the Millitary equipment that Iraq has not been able to import would have prevented even one death from starvation in Iraq. Then again maybe Tank parts are an integral part of the Iraqi diet.