Planetside 2 and Professional Gaming - Page 7

goneglockin · 2012-06-09, 01:41 PM

I don't think professional gaming is the right phrase here. Professional gamers shun games like BFBC2/BF3 because they are essentially stipped down console shooters that are designed so that a player can play while having a hand free to eat doritos or chug mountain dew.

They do not require you to MOVE and SHOOT, and generally frown upon you doing both at the same time. Hence, the game is not competitive.

ThermalReaper · 2012-06-09, 01:43 PM

Originally Posted by goneglockin

I don't think professional gaming is the right phrase here. Professional gamers shun games like BFBC2/BF3 because they are essentially stipped down console shooters that are designed so that a player can play while having a hand free to eat doritos or chug mountain dew.

They do not require you to MOVE and SHOOT, and generally frown upon you doing both at the same time. Hence, the game is not competitive.

Wait, so what's a competive game? CoD? That game where you can die twice in a row from both edges of the map? Sorry I got a little over my head with the CoD hate. But seriously, what's a competitive game? Tribes and unreal pop into my head.

Zar · 2012-06-09, 01:53 PM

Every E sport i have ever seen or tried has had the worst Community on the internet. LoL Hon *one place i will say is not like this is starcraft but its getting there* Cod halo all of them are just horrid freaking community's. This is planetside, now we might hate the other side i for one wish many deaths on the NC as a TR but we work together as a faction to win. This E sport stuff needs to stay away now special dev run events for some hard core outfits for brag rights hell yeah let's do it but never all the time never a que system and never ranking. Please for the love all that is holy if you want ladder and arena play go play cod or hon or lol and leave my lovely game awsome with out this fail ass system =3

james · 2012-06-09, 01:55 PM

This game is not meant for e-sports. It would require a scaled down version to do it and i would rather they focus on the actually game, and not something a small percent of the community actually wants or would use.

HEISTT · 2012-06-09, 02:35 PM

I wouldn't mind seeing some sort of official tournament a couple of times a year. If it happens like once a month or even less frequent, it wouldn't detract those outfits from the game completely. I personally won't be participating in them, but I can understand the people that are interested in it.

Espion · 2012-06-09, 03:29 PM

I wouldn't mind seeing an outfit challenge system, but it should be a lower priority for well after launch.

Anyone that has any delusions of esports for Planetside needs to forget them now. Even if matches were getting 2500+ viewers per night no sponsor would even consider getting involved, the teams are just too big no matter which way you look at it. Even 7v7 is a huge stretch/risk for sponsors. The support just isn't there right now, and it won't be for a very long time. (Not that I wouldn't support someone trying to setup a way to broadcast PS)

Revanmug · 2012-06-09, 03:40 PM

Originally Posted by Tapman

I propose that development includes a way for event competition to exist in Planetside 2, I seriously think that people would love spectating highly competitive groups of players on the scale that we will be enjoying, especially with the relative diversity of the playerbase already, the ability to specialize your play style, and with the accessibility (will work on machines that are VERY old!) I came up with an idea to track and display mission performance data in the idea vault, if that was implemented then you could base a competition off of that, other contests could just be in-game events scheduled where the squad/platoon/outfit/faction that controls the most territory or a particularly large facility/area for a certain amount of time. You could let people sign up for these events in advance with their username which would give the host access to data needed, that way other people can be part of the fight even if they can't afford the sign-up fee or the flight to Vegas or wherever we all decide to host these!

I think that the conventional video game competition could be totally changed up with this game, perhaps they could work with devs for when new locations are opened up (space, moons, new planets, etc.) but I think that there could be a lot of ongoing corporate sponsorship interest for stuff like this!

Just a question... Have you done any recent fps eSport? Because most fps team are around 5-8 players. And there are many good reason outside of the game for that...

That is far from entertaining to watch and doesn't make any sense in a game were everything is persistant and contain thousand of players...

Edit: necro thread joy...

goneglockin · 2012-06-09, 04:15 PM

Originally Posted by ThermalReaper

Wait, so what's a competive game? CoD? That game where you can die twice in a row from both edges of the map? Sorry I got a little over my head with the CoD hate. But seriously, what's a competitive game? Tribes and unreal pop into my head.

Yep. Competitive games are more about lining up your shots and dodging people shooting at you than micro-managing an artificial cone of fire and finding cover.

It looks like that's the way it's always gonna be too and im glad that not much in the way of e-sports is seen with modern consolized shooters.

cryosin · 2012-06-09, 05:43 PM

i suggested something like this and the community didn't like it. I personally think it would be awesome to watch, but it boils down to whether other people would care.

I think with planetside 2 it would be awesome. The game is just so pretty to even watch lol.

And nobody has done esports on a 100+ player team before. Would be something truly epic.

Espion · 2012-06-09, 05:46 PM

Originally Posted by cryosin

And nobody has done esports on a 100+ player team before. Would be something truly epic.

Because by any reasonable standard within the esports community, that wouldn't be esports. It would be a clusterfuck that would never see a single LAN, live tournament, or sponsor.

Hmr85 · 2012-06-09, 05:47 PM

I don't believe E-sports should even be associated with this game. With that said though I do realize a few people enjoy the outfit wars. I am fine with that if they limit it to a once or maybe even twice a year thing. A every weekend or every month thing is imo a huge no no. Anything that detracts away from the core of the game play is just meh.

ArmedZealot · 2012-06-09, 05:54 PM

Originally Posted by Espion

Because by any reasonable standard within the esports community, that wouldn't be esports. It would be a clusterfuck that would never see a single LAN, live tournament, or sponsor.

Pretty much. And for "professional" gaming to exist you need prizes money and sponsers etc. How do you handle a team with 100 or even 20-30 players with that stuff?

Rumblepit · 2012-06-09, 05:57 PM

Originally Posted by WellWisherELF

i recall either smedley or higby mentioning that they may add an outfit war or competitive arena type system into the game at some point in time, but they seemed sure that it wouldn't be a focal point of the game.

^^^^^^ i saw this aswell.

im looking forward to outfit wars !!!!!!!!! we will have to wait and see what system they come up with for outfit wars before we know if there is the possibility for e sport/ professional gaming. nobody can say for sure if this is even a option yet. but the devs have hinted at it many times already.

lolroflroflcake · 2012-06-09, 06:04 PM

If this ever happened on the live servers I would make it my sole mission in life to screw up their silly little tournament just for fun, and it has to happen on the live servers otherwise its not really Planetside and they may as well play BF3. And its not like it would be hard to do so, modern FPSes are so much easier then the original planetside, at least in terms of getting kills.

Pride · 2012-06-09, 06:50 PM

Planetside is a game about scale, about thousands of soliders fighting it out in a never ending battle and quite frankly that's fucking amazing, however that sort of thing doesn't work in E-Sports. You can't expect a team to play a match against each other literally forever, and the team sizes would not only make forming teams ridiculously difficult but make any prize money minuscule once it's shared out among said team.

The only way I could see this working is if, for e-sports, they turned this into the E3 demo, you have 3 limited teams fighting to control one base, whoever had the most up time over an hour was the winner. At this point however the game is no longer Planetside, it's just a sci-fi Battlefield and if they wanted to play professional Battlefield why bother playing Planetside 2?