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View Poll Results: Who is right?
I belive that believing in the Trinity, that Christ is the Saviour makes you Christian, Duck is right, as Catholics belive this. 5 20.00%
Catholics and Protestants worship a bit differently, Dumbass is right. 8 32.00%
Err... I don't really follow the inner workings of the Church that much... 12 48.00%
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Old 2003-09-07, 04:58 PM   [Ignore Me] #106
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Originally posted by Everay
BTW, the reason Anti biotics are losing their effectiveness is because, docters perscribe them too much, thus, the desises are becoming more immune, its sorta like our white blood cells, the more they come in contact with foreign bacteria, the better they are at eliminating it
aka: evolution.
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Old 2003-09-07, 05:17 PM   [Ignore Me] #107
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I consider evolution being a change from species to species... not changes within a species..
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Old 2003-09-07, 05:19 PM   [Ignore Me] #108
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Originally posted by Solitudinem
I consider evolution being a change from species to species... not changes within a species..
you have some sort of weird dictionary from the alternate universe of jksflksdfjksdfopsdf or something, then

evolution is the gradual change of a species into another species. growing a resistance to a certain antibiotic creates a different strain of the virus: hence, a new species.
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Old 2003-09-07, 05:28 PM   [Ignore Me] #109
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...no... it is a new strain of the *same* species of virus..not an entirely new species.
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Old 2003-09-07, 05:45 PM   [Ignore Me] #110
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Originally posted by Solitudinem
...no... it is a new strain of the *same* species of virus..not an entirely new species.
my bad. still, the point is: evolution is the gradual progression from species to species, which typically involves physical or chemical changes within its structural DNA. (in this case, resistances against an anti-biotic.)
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Old 2003-09-07, 05:49 PM   [Ignore Me] #111
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there are two types of evolution proposed, the gradual, Micro-Evolution amd then theres the big step evolution, scientist dont know which one takes place, and still debate about it, but i think Micro Evolution is what happens
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Old 2003-09-07, 06:38 PM   [Ignore Me] #112
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Minor evolution from a wallabe or whatnot to a kangaroo is one thing, that does happen.

Look at natural laws, water evaporates. Simple enough, you say. But WHY does it evaporate? What causes these processes to happen in the first place? Why doesn't water explode instead of evaporating? Science cannot answer why such basic laws of nature are even there. Look at how immensely complex the universe is, just dwell on that for a while.
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Old 2003-09-07, 07:46 PM   [Ignore Me] #113
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Originally posted by Everay
there are two types of evolution proposed, the gradual, Micro-Evolution amd then theres the big step evolution, scientist dont know which one takes place, and still debate about it, but i think Micro Evolution is what happens
micro-evolution is a gradual thing that adds up, which creates large-scale evolutionary leaps. remember, evolution takes millions of years at a time to create a new species.

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Look at natural laws, water evaporates. Simple enough, you say. But WHY does it evaporate? What causes these processes to happen in the first place? Why doesn't water explode instead of evaporating? Science cannot answer why such basic laws of nature are even there. Look at how immensely complex the universe is, just dwell on that for a while.
of course science can't answer why things happen, on a base level. science is just there to tell you how things happen.

science isn't attempting to solve why we're here or why the universe came to be, science is here to make sense of the universe.
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Old 2003-09-07, 08:33 PM   [Ignore Me] #114
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Thank you, we are now on the same page. Science can't disprove religion, religion can't disprove science. And it is up to people to decide which they trust more.
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Old 2003-09-07, 08:38 PM   [Ignore Me] #115
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Originally posted by Kaikou
No good can come of it, true. But it can be very entertaining
bashing religion is entertaining?

edit: lock it please hamma

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Old 2003-09-07, 09:09 PM   [Ignore Me] #116
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I am Squeeky, your interweb savior. Worship me...


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Old 2003-09-07, 09:27 PM   [Ignore Me] #117
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I for one beleive that anyone who follows the bible wholeheartedly, or any other religious book for that matter, and does not question anything it says is no longer human. They are just a shell, living life from a book. The defenition of human is to question, and strive for greater things. Not to accept everything at face value, becuase it could be a deception. I do not beleive that ma created god, but man created their god. Maybe there is some higher power, who knows, but it is definately NOT THE ONE IN A BOOK WRITTEN BY MAN! I do beleive that our conciousness is the electric currents flowing through our brains, and that it is dipersed to the world around us when we die. So we can forever observe, but no longer affect actions made in the world.
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Old 2003-09-07, 09:30 PM   [Ignore Me] #118
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^ what he said
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Old 2003-09-07, 11:11 PM   [Ignore Me] #119
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I don't know, I think religion is just another way for men to control other people's thoughts. Think about that for a while.
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Old 2003-09-07, 11:37 PM   [Ignore Me] #120
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Originally posted by Mr1337Duck
Thank you, we are now on the same page. Science can't disprove religion, religion can't disprove science. And it is up to people to decide which they trust more.

one of the things on this thread i agree 100% with
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