News: Resolved - PS2 Region - Page 8

IronMole · 2012-02-21, 05:16 PM

Originally Posted by NCLynx

Maybe I'm just missing something, but I don't see the huge deal. US not being able to see EU servers just shows less on my screen, why would I want to play on a server other than the one best suited for me (EX: US East)?

I know there was some crossover in the original because people in the US could see werner and the other way around, but for the most part people stuck to the server closest to them.
The only time I can remember a huge amount of people NOT sticking to the closest server was when population had a huge drop.

Outfits, friends and choices?

Insanekanifer · 2012-02-21, 05:16 PM

I'm going to have to disagree with the general vibe of the thread... Although I respect the bonds that everyone made, this game is being made as a fps shooter first. 20 ping versus anything above 120 is a massive difference and can cause teleporting, especially with large vehicles, causing them to jitter. I'd rather have everyone be on an equal footing and make new friendships and outfits in the new game.

ThGlump · 2012-02-21, 05:16 PM

Originally Posted by Mirror

The current everquest players get to continue on the US servers why not us? discrimination against us Planetside players!!

Thanks for the update though.

You can continue as a current player in US planetside server. Planetside2 as a new game will be probably region locked.

If there will be IP lock its even worse. Proxy will increase ping to sky.

Originally Posted by Raymac

but what if your choice affects other players?

I know this is an extreme example, but it's the first that came to mind. If you get drunk at home alone, it doesn't affect anyone else. If you get drunk and go for a drive, you put other people's lives at risk.

High ping doesn't just affect you, it affects everyone that you come across in the game.

As some US players will be selfish about this, and ignoring this pro7 stuff as it doesnt affect them, ill be as such selfish an play with high ping on US servers if it will be playable for me. If it will make game worse for other, so they start complain, thats better. Maybe then SOE reconsider this, and give Europe proper support.

Raymac · 2012-02-21, 05:16 PM

Originally Posted by IronMole

You are right, it is a stupid analogy.

Gee thanks.

But the point I am making still stands. Your high ping doesn't just affect you, and it is a bit selfish to ignore that.

Vash02 · 2012-02-21, 05:17 PM

Originally Posted by NCLynx

Maybe I'm just missing something, but I don't see the huge deal. US not being able to see EU servers just shows less on my screen, why would I want to play on a server other than the one best suited for me (EX: US East)?

I know there was some crossover in the original because people in the US could see werner and the other way around, but for the most part people stuck to the server closest to them.
The only time I can remember a huge amount of people NOT sticking to the closest server was when population had a huge drop.

(I'm expecting to be flamed, this however was just what I personally saw)

The big deal is SOE spent years creating an international community and has now decided to split it up and hand a portion of it to an unknown and untried company that has only worked in Germany (and only in television) before this deal.

KALU · 2012-02-21, 05:18 PM

What SOE have to remember is that the Vets from 8 years back forged friendships and formed clans with people from the States and world wide.

These players want to stay together and fight together again, Personally I could not imagine playing the game without my fellow SMF players. Its what made the game that much more enjoyable and kept me playing for so many years after release.

All i can hope for is that the players get a choice and dont get separated from your friends and clan mates.

Please....

Insanekanifer · 2012-02-21, 05:19 PM

Originally Posted by Insanekanifer

I'm going to have to disagree with the general vibe of the thread... Although I respect the bonds that everyone made, this game is being made as a fps shooter first. 20 ping versus anything above 120 is a massive difference and can cause teleporting, especially with large vehicles, causing them to jitter. I'd rather have everyone be on an equal footing and make new friendships and outfits in the new game.

Not to mention the language barrier issues. Nothing upsets me more in a game where communication is important then having multiple languages. I'm all for english based us servers.

IronMole · 2012-02-21, 05:20 PM

Originally Posted by Raymac

Gee thanks.

But the point I am making still stands. Your high ping doesn't just affect you, and it is a bit selfish to ignore that.

And it isn't selfish to prevent someone playing with their friends/outfits?

You keep trying to make out that having a ping of 100+ is a major problem in todays gaming. It isn't.

Cyborgmatt · 2012-02-21, 05:20 PM

Originally Posted by Insanekanifer

I'm going to have to disagree with the general vibe of the thread... Although I respect the bonds that everyone made, this game is being made as a fps shooter first. 20 ping versus anything above 120 is a massive difference and can cause teleporting, especially with large vehicles, causing them to jitter. I'd rather have everyone be on an equal footing and make new friendships and outfits in the new game.

Let's just make one thing clear, this decision has nothing to do with pings that kind of decision would most definitely come from people within the actual PS2 team.

This however came from the higher ups and SOE have probably made a nice pocket off it, ProSiebenSat.1 are a huge European media conglomerate, plenty of money there.

Vancha · 2012-02-21, 05:20 PM

Originally Posted by Raymac

but what if your choice affects other players?

I know this is an extreme example, but it's the first that came to mind. If you get drunk at home alone, it doesn't affect anyone else. If you get drunk and go for a drive, you put other people's lives at risk.

High ping doesn't just affect you, it affects everyone that you come across in the game.

Honestly Ray, this isn't the time to be playing devil's advocate, especially that badly.

We're sure to get reams and reams of such excuses from the damage control guys at SOE, trying to persuade us this is in our best interest and justify this stupidity. At the end of the day, the game would be better off with a united playerbase. There's no argument to be made that could adequately justify what they've done.

Shanesan · 2012-02-21, 05:22 PM

Originally Posted by Raymac

Gee thanks.

But the point I am making still stands. Your high ping doesn't just affect you, and it is a bit selfish to ignore that.

Server side hit detection. This isn't PS1. That's all.

Insanekanifer · 2012-02-21, 05:22 PM

Originally Posted by Vancha

Honestly Ray, this isn't the time to be playing devil's advocate, especially that badly.

We're sure to get reams and reams of such excuses from the damage control guys at SOE, trying to persuade us this is in our best interest and justify this stupidity. At the end of the day, the game would be better off with a united playerbase. There's no argument to be made that could adequately justify what they've done.

Yes there is, I would not appreciate high pinged players on my servers. Also language barrier issues. There's two reasons.

Magpie · 2012-02-21, 05:22 PM

It's bad move from Soe, did get a buy out from this other company? Or is it to stop high pings?

If its due to to stop high pings as its got 666vs666vs666 and having everyone on local on the sever it understandable to help cope with the high amount of people lode?

Or is it to make more/save money?

For me it don't matter for me unless its beta u.s only, but I feel sorry for all the ps1 vets that have been playing for years with each other and made strong bonds it would be a shame to say goodbye it would be the death of many outfits.
Let's just hope this is all cleared up soon and hope for some good news

Remeber people.

Roll on beta

Well done Soe you know how to fuck things up

Uk player

ThGlump · 2012-02-21, 05:23 PM

Originally Posted by NCLynx

Maybe I'm just missing something, but I don't see the huge deal. US not being able to see EU servers just shows less on my screen, why would I want to play on a server other than the one best suited for me (EX: US East)?

I know there was some crossover in the original because people in the US could see werner and the other way around, but for the most part people stuck to the server closest to them.
The only time I can remember a huge amount of people NOT sticking to the closest server was when population had a huge drop.

(I'm expecting to be flamed, this however was just what I personally saw)

For me its bug deal that they sold us, sold our accounts, forcing us to play under someone else. Secondly ist breaking european community as some refuse it and play on US server, and some accept it an play on EU, separating it.
Im not too much concerned by international gameplay, but i hate thats option is gone too.

SuperMorto · 2012-02-21, 05:23 PM

Originally Posted by Raymac

but what if your choice affects other players?

I know this is an extreme example, but it's the first that came to mind. If you get drunk at home alone, it doesn't affect anyone else. If you get drunk and go for a drive, you put other people's lives at risk.

High ping doesn't just affect you, it affects everyone that you come across in the game.

Would you turn the game off if your ping was the highest? No you wouldn't. Also if your ping was say 34? and the server average wads 20, this mean your effecting everyone else?

Until you have a ping of 0 100% of the time, your point is not valid. And that goes for anybody else talking about pings. This is the year 2012 FFS. This has nothing and I mean nothing to do with PINGS!

Money money money.