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Old 2004-04-19, 12:07 AM   [Ignore Me] #121
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Old 2004-04-19, 09:39 AM   [Ignore Me] #122
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the FREAK system is best barrel system out there right now..the DYE boomstick is a close second.

the flatline sucks...there is no doubt about that. it may make the ball shoot farther but it slows down the ball....greatly.
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Old 2004-04-19, 10:27 AM   [Ignore Me] #123
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Originally Posted by AztecWarrior
I knew I should have gotten that Tippmann 98 and not the Spyder, but my dad didn't LISTEN...it's a good gun, however, provided you don't go crazy on the trigger in 50F.
That would be because of the Co2 you are using. When you fire rapidly liquid Co2 makes its way into your valve. When you pull the trigger, the hammer, back bolt, what ever you want to call it opens the valve and the liquid then flash boils. Co2 boils at something like -2000 F. So that is causing your valve to not open the whole way for the next shot thus not pushing the ball as hard, fast and far for the ball to clear the chamber.
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I�d rather a Spyder then the Tippmann 98....that is the worst gun they ever made...be happy you got the spyder....to me a walmart gun is not a gun at all, but most people have the walmart guns....they are good if you aren't gonna play much.
I wouldn�t say one was better than the other. They both have pros and cons. But if it was up to me I�d go with a 98c with the full auto electro kit. You might ask yourself now why would I say that since I said I didn�t care for full auto or burst modes. Well cause the kit replaces the back bolt with a very small, fast, and light metal rod. That drops the weight of the gun and since it�s small and light it can cycle faster. I�d just leave it on semi mode. Wouldn�t use it for full auto. That�s what the Pro team Tippmann Effect uses. They do very well against teams with cokers, matrices, angels, and what not.

Now as for spyders, there is a Pro Player named JC Whittinton. I think I might have messed up his last name. I think he has played for the Naughty Dogs if I remember correctly. He plays with an electro spyder. There have been articles in magazines about him and his spyder. That�s where I heard about him.
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My friends use Tippmanns, they're a close match. However, they have problems with the Flatline (Curved) barrel, and to clean the gun you have to crack it in half, literally.

Mine's easier to maintain and probably will shoot better, provided it doesn't stop.
That�s true for the 98�s flatline. The A-5�s is much better. The 98�s is basically a proto type if you ask me. They really didn�t think everything through before the put it out for sale. They just wanted money.
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the FREAK system is best barrel system out there right now..the DYE boomstick is a close second.

the flatline sucks...there is no doubt about that. it may make the ball shoot farther but it slows down the ball....greatly.
The "slow down" of the ball is actually not true.

Have you guys ever been to "Deep Blue"? It's a forum on the automag.org forum. Here is the link to Deep Blue its self. http://www.automags.org/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=6 This is a place were some of the smartest people in paintball industry come to post about the science that is paintball. People like Tom Kaye of Air Gun Designs (AutoMags), Glen Palmer of Palmer Regs and guns, Collin something I can't remember his last name of LapCo barrels and many more very smart guys that spend a lot of money just on researching this stuff so that they can make better products and they are nice enough to post a lot of what they find for the public. True they might not post everything so they can keep the "edge" for their company, but you get the idea.

Now the link for the Ball Spin theory is in the Deep Blue section. It's stickyed at the top. I have yet to read it. My brother read it and was telling me what it basically said while we were working on his deck.
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Old 2004-04-19, 01:26 PM   [Ignore Me] #124
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Old 2004-04-19, 04:38 PM   [Ignore Me] #125
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Originally Posted by Kyonye
Actually I can deny a tippmann98 custom, even after upgrades...know why? cause they suck... I can and I will deny them.
Oh yea? And what do you rock?
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Old 2004-04-19, 04:43 PM   [Ignore Me] #126
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Oh yea? And what do you rock?

I rock my tippmann Pro-carbine and Recently bought Bushy B2K, with the old freak system barrels .....Also have my Compresses Air Tank.
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Old 2004-04-19, 05:15 PM   [Ignore Me] #127
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Originally Posted by Kyonye
I rock my tippmann Pro-carbine and Recently bought Bushy B2K, with the old freak system barrels .....Also have my Compresses Air Tank.
It would take some money, and some details would be left out but a 98custom could be built superior to a B2k.
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Old 2004-04-19, 05:17 PM   [Ignore Me] #128
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I always liked my 98c. It was just a fun gun to dick around with. Go play and spray it down with a hose. No problems at all.
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Old 2004-04-19, 05:18 PM   [Ignore Me] #129
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Originally Posted by SkunkPunk
It would take some money, and some details would be left out but a 98custom could be built superior to a B2k.

A 98Custom will never be superior to a bushy B2K....
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Old 2004-04-19, 05:19 PM   [Ignore Me] #130
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With the right upgrades it could make the Bushmaster run its paces. People still assume that the gun makes the player....
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Old 2004-04-19, 05:23 PM   [Ignore Me] #131
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Old 2004-04-19, 05:32 PM   [Ignore Me] #132
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Originally Posted by Kyonye
A 98Custom will never be superior to a bushy B2K....
The only thing a B2k has that is superior to a tippmann 98 is EYES, and the shape.
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Old 2004-04-19, 05:34 PM   [Ignore Me] #133
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Old 2004-04-19, 05:41 PM   [Ignore Me] #134
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Angels are good, but they have become noob magnets... Now if you go to a newbie field and say the word angel, everyone will take a deep breathe and just go silent...
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Old 2004-04-19, 05:47 PM   [Ignore Me] #135
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Bushy's and Cyborgs are my only choices for electric guns.....and still the 98c's suck...they can never be as good as a bushy...if you upgraded everything including putting on the RT trigger, it comes close to a bushy stock.....but still not close enough. Tippmanns are made more for rental guns, except for the A-5, which has one good feature to it, the warthog feed. they have teams out there that play for Tippmann and use 98c's and A-5 but those are stock competitions...and they use them because they are sponsored by tippmann...they put the 98 and 98c out there to compete against other walmart guns, such as spyder's and brass eagle (i may add brass eagles should stop making guns)....
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