How will you play - Competitively or Casually?

[SKYeXile]

Originally Posted by Dogbolta

Voted competitive because thats how I like to play.
But not all of the people I play with have the time to do that so there will be plenty of casual play as well.
Friday nights with the mini fridge topped up and a full ventrilo list is the making of many lols and good times in PS2.

Dont care much for K/D but when its there I know it drives me to become better at what I do by being aware of it.

I really liked the old style Planetside stats.
Can we even access those any more?

i saved the top 40 of the vs markov leaderboard? :P

[Forsaken One]

Originally Posted by Zulthus

Are you more of a competitive player, caring more about stats/teamwork and getting shit done, or a casual, more laid-back and just enjoying the game once in a while?

I'm gonna throw in an 'other' option too, because I think I made that sound biased.

I have to say that its stupid that you put it in a way that stated "competitive players" (and I'm assuming you mean E-sport style.) has anything to do with or even really give a rats bum about teamwork.

Most "competitive players" would rather teamwork go out the window and that they be allowed to run around like retards doing no-scope 360 bullshit.

There is a third option that everyone always overlooks really.

Its the person who "Plays to win" but doesn't give a shit about being what people call "competitive/skilled". Honestly the only reason the competitive people can even wipe their own bums is because the GAME is PROGRAMED to ALLOW them to. Its not them being good, its the game being changed/made to make them good.

[SKYeXile]

Originally Posted by Forsaken One

I have to say that its stupid that you put it in a way that stated "competitive players" (and I'm assuming you mean E-sport style.) has anything to do with or even really give a rats bum about teamwork.

Most "competitive players" would rather teamwork go out the window and that they be allowed to run around like retards doing no-scope 360 bullshit.

There is a third option that everyone always overlooks really.

Its the person who "Plays to win" but doesn't give a shit about being what people call "competitive/skilled" Honestly the only reason the competitive people can even wipe their own bums is because the GAME is PROGRAMED to ALLOW them to. Its not them being good, its the game being changed/made to make them good.

I dont think you're playing with competitive players, because competitive players will spend sometimes hours before or after predicting or going over what could/might go wrong and the plan should be etc, etc, teamwork and communication is very vital competitive gaming, since most are after all team based. or maybe you are playing with them, just not under proper competitive circumstances.

though hrm, i think i get what you're saying now, doing that shit is aids, but it needs to be done.

[Forsaken One]

Originally Posted by SKYeXile

because competitive players will spend sometimes hours before or after predicting or going over what could/might go wrong and the plan should be etc, etc, teamwork and communication is very vital competitive gaming

When its forced yes. I didn't say they didn't use teamwork when the game demands it of them. I just said they rather reflex>everything else, including teamwork.

Edit: Also to add to the point of my "full post" casuals can use a lot of teamwork too. A lot will do anything, including jump into a Gal to fill it then ride to a attack point and add their firepower.

[Zulthus]

Originally Posted by Forsaken One

I have to say that its stupid that you put it in a way that stated "competitive players" (and I'm assuming you mean E-sport style.) has anything to do with or even really give a rats bum about teamwork.

Most "competitive players" would rather teamwork go out the window and that they be allowed to run around like retards doing no-scope 360 bullshit.

There is a third option that everyone always overlooks really.

Its the person who "Plays to win" but doesn't give a shit about being what people call "competitive/skilled". Honestly the only reason the competitive people can even wipe their own bums is because the GAME is PROGRAMED to ALLOW them to. Its not them being good, its the game being changed/made to make them good.

I didn't mean to make it sound like casuals don't care about teamplay, I was just exaggerating the option.

[LightningDriver]

I've been playing planetside casually for 8 years, that isn't going to change anytime soon.

[Forsaken One]

Originally Posted by Zulthus

I didn't mean to make it sound like casuals don't care about teamplay, I was just exaggerating the option.

Always remember that non competitive player you randomly meet that sacrificed himself in some way to save you.

That guy who ran out to piss off the tank so you could get away.

That guy who rammed his Gal into the enemy so that it couldn't destroy your vehicle so you wouldn't lose resources.

That random pubber who died to save you and would give his left virtual nut to make sure you lived.

Just because you can't see him, he has no fame, and he couldn't give a rats behind about being competitive, doesn't mean hes not there, always by your side when you need him.

[captainkapautz]

Originally Posted by Forsaken One

Always remember that non competitive player you randomly meet that sacrificed himself in some way to save you.

That guy who ran out to piss off the tank so you could get away.

That guy who rammed his Gal into the enemy so that it couldn't destroy your vehicle so you wouldn't lose resources.

That random pubber who died to save you and would give his left virtual nut to make sure you lived.

Just because you can't see him, he has no fame, and he couldn't give a rats behind about being competitive, doesn't mean hes not there, always by your side when you need him.

NEVER FORGET!

[Vetto]

Probably Light Competitively.

[exLupo]

I will be a casual (read: irregular) player who cares about teamwork and getting the job done. Just because someone doesn't play all the time doesn't mean they don't value excellence.

I care about what I'm doing and get annoyed when those around me don't. It's just.. my poopsocking days are over.

[Mechzz]

This thread, apart from the dip in the middle, has been comedy gold. For the late joiners, here are some highlights:

Originally Posted by Zolan

I chose other since there was no option for Commando.

Zolan, the question was about how you will play the game, not what you will be wearing when you play it.

Originally Posted by Aurmanite

What the...

You can't redefine a word to your liking. That would be insanity.

Aurmanite, you haven't spent much time here yet, have you?

Originally Posted by Landtank

Well seeing as I have 16 corporate sponsors I'll be playing competitively.

Landtank, just because the NC's shadowy bosses said they were "sponsoring" you to fight on Auraxis, doesn't mean your Vanny, Jackhammer and other recycled trash will be "competitive"

(jk btw, for clarity)

[Dart]

Originally Posted by Dogbolta

Voted competitive because thats how I like to play.
But not all of the people I play with have the time to do that so there will be plenty of casual play as well.
Friday nights with the mini fridge topped up and a full ventrilo list is the making of many lols and good times in PS2.

Dont care much for K/D but when its there I know it drives me to become better at what I do by being aware of it.

I really liked the old style Planetside stats.
Can we even access those any more?

I disagree K/D makes you a better player. K/Time is a far better indicator. Say there are two players; one is 25/1 over three hours the other is 150/60 over the same time frame. Which is helping his Empire more? That is why ever competitive player i know focuses on K/T rather than K/D. Of course the less you die the more time you have to kill but when exile says 2/1 or 3/1 is sufficient he is right. That's why, as any Outfit, we'd usually go to fights where we'd be outnumbered, because it meant we could tie up 3 or 4 times our numbers and of enemies which would usually lead to the rest of or Empire being successful elsewhere on the map.

Oh and rev (the webmaster of Planetsidestats.net) actually let me have a poke around the old site the other day, which was pretty fun.

[lawnmower]

Originally Posted by NewSith

But 80/0 killcount for my BF3 chopper gunner on a normal server with normal tickets in what you call a "casual" game session speaks for itself, doesn't it?

indeed, you hit it right on the nail for the worlds most casual game mechanic

[lawnmower]

Originally Posted by Aurmanite

One of the main problems we're dealing with here is your perception of yourself. You think that because you are great at playing a game you are some sort of authority on it. You aren't. There are world champions that probably can't name 1/2 of the techniques they use.

Hardcore gaming has always been about the amount of time invested. You can't be hardcore if you don't have what most people would consider an excessive amount of time to play. Hardcore players have this time so they naturally learn/master/complete games faster. Once this happens, it becomes more about using that mastery/max level/shit in a competitive way.

I ain't saying that hardcore players are the best at the game, because there are plenty of hardcore players that are bad. If you read anything other than rage comics and lolmarkovforums, you'd have a deeper understanding of this truth.

Here's a little example that may, or may not open your eyes to what the hell you're trying to agrue against but are looking like an idiot doing so.

I had several friends in WoW that almost never raided or PvP'd, but still spent 6+hours every day 7 days a week playing the game...for 5 years. They basically ran the auction houses on a couple of servers back in the day. They were slightly infamous and when people like you would inspect their gear they would have to deal with the same tripe I'm dealing with now. These guys would handle it by opening a trade with the morons and put up 50 squillion gold.

These dudes made hundreds of real dollars, but by your shitty definition they wouldn't be considered hardcore because they weren't using their ubarskillz to pwn noobs.

TLDR; You're such an average 'leet' or '1337' gamer. Good skills (supposedly), shit brains.

so wheres your unfaultering proof that youre definition is the correct one

[Pella]

Originally Posted by SKYeXile

omg tards, Hardcore is how you spend your time playing its requires some dedication, yes because you need knowledge and you don't get that by playing for 5 minutes every day, you need to put sometime into the game or be actively reading up on the game.

There are some people who play games for 18 hours a day, they spend their time prancing around doing daily quests, slowy grinding up their mounts or in the case of planetside, sit around in sanc and take screenshots of their zerg outfit in formation. These players arnt hardcore, dispite their playtime.

Hardcore is playing with a purpose and spending your time wisely, I only play PS for about 4-6 hours per night, in that time, i dont stop, i would read some stuff during the day on breaks to confirm I'm running the right loadouts so when i play there is no messing around, there is just killing.

You casuals dont understand the hardcore mindset and never will or perhaps you are more hardcore than you think, you are after all on a pre release game forum, there is nothing casual about that.

But please explain to me how your hardcore? The above just assumes you play long hours and rack up some kills.

Every post you make indicates how good you are or how Hardcore your outfit is at FPS. Yet the Audience here are awaiting to see some sort of evidence.

Your a few streets short of professional players my friend. Your mind set is all wrong.

People play the game how they want. And not dictated by how you think they should.

As for me, and im sure all out the outfit we will be playing Competitively small scale. And hopefully contend for the e-sports which im sure SOE will bring.