Should being revived count as a death?

[SKYeXile]

Originally Posted by Stardouser

Even if they died, then the revive still takes it away.

If a lone wolf attacks a squad, kills one or 2 guys before dying himself, and the squad then revives the two and moves on, did the lone wolf really "best" anyone?

LOL! yes...he killed 2 people that were grouped and who should have easily been able to kill him before he even did 30% damage to one person. their failure as players should be noted.

[Stardouser]

Originally Posted by SKYeXile

LOL! yes...he killed 2 people that were grouped and who should have easily been able to kill him before he even did 30% damage to one person. their failure as players should be noted.

Incorrect. While the PS2 TTK is yet to be finalized, in most games it's low enough to jump out of your hiding spot and get a kill or two. The lone wolf then dies without revive for running without a squad while the squad he attacked continues essentially unharmed after reviving.

You continue talk about good stat tracking, and you've been offered a stat tracking alternative(takedowns/taken down) and yet continue to support a system that gives people extra kills and extra deaths and thus can't be used to properly analyze a player.

[SKYeXile]

Originally Posted by Stardouser

Incorrect. While the PS2 TTK is yet to be finalized, in most games it's low enough to jump out of your hiding spot and get a kill or two. The lone wolf then dies without revive for running without a squad while the squad he attacked continues essentially unharmed after reviving.

You continue talk about good stat tracking, and you've been offered a stat tracking alternative(takedowns/taken down) and yet continue to support a system that gives people extra kills and extra deaths and thus can't be used to properly analyze a player.

Planetside 1's system gives people extra kills and deaths? you sir have proved you're down their with people like Traak and thus are not worth having conversation with.

[GreatMazinkaise]

Not seeing what the issue is... you died. Your med buddy tossed you a Phoenix Down and you got back up; doesn't mean you didn't die.

I'm all for giving Medics a revive stat, but that's his deal, not yours. You died and somebody OTHER THAN YOU fixed it.

[Stew]

Originally Posted by SKYeXile

Planetside 1's system gives people extra kills and deaths? you sir have proved you're down their with people like Traak and thus are not worth having conversation with.

I think you can stop insulting people everytime you troll with them it could be nice from you ! cant wait to se what you actually worth in game

[GreatMazinkaise]

Originally Posted by Stew

I think you can stop insulting people everytime you troll with them it could be nice from you ! cant wait to se what you actually worth in game

Says PSU's #1 Troll...

[SKYeXile]

Originally Posted by Stew

I think you can stop insulting people everytime you troll with them it could be nice from you ! cant wait to se what you actually worth in game

History has a habit of repeating itself.

[Stardouser]

Originally Posted by SKYeXile

Planetside 1's system gives people extra kills and deaths? you sir have proved you're down their with people like Traak and thus are not worth having conversation with.

Are we talking about PS1? Did you really just try to imply that because PS1 doesn't return the death from a revive that that must therefore be the right way to do it?

No, we are talking about what PS2 should do for stats. A system that gives you kills for repeatedly killing someone that's being revived, and for being repeatedly killed while being revived, is indeed providing extra deaths and kills on both sides, watering down the stats. And don't bother with semantics on the word "give". You know exactly what is meant.

I can see you won't debate the issue and will rely on discrediting people for going against PS1.

[SKYeXile]

Originally Posted by Stardouser

Are we talking about PS1? Did you really just try to imply that because PS1 doesn't return the death from a revive that that must therefore be the right way to do it?

No, we are talking about what PS2 should do for stats. A system that gives you kills for repeatedly killing someone that's being revived, and for being repeatedly killed while being revived, is indeed providing extra deaths and kills on both sides, watering down the stats.

I can see you won't debate the issue and will rely on discrediting people for going against PS1.

dont accept the revive if you're camped then, pretty simple.

[Stew]

Originally Posted by SKYeXile

dont accept the revive if you're camped then, pretty simple.

the accept denied revive mechanics did not work well in BF3 beta thats why they remoove it so we will see if it work better for Ps2

[SKYeXile]

Originally Posted by Stew

the accept denied revive mechanics did not work well in BF3 beta thats why they remoove it so we will see if it work better for Ps2

Yes because DICE's renowned shitty coding has a bearing on SOE's coding :/ the accept revive already looks to already work fine.

[Hamma]

Originally Posted by Papscal

Dead is dead, how the fuck can this even be a topic? Anyone who thinks ya cant count a death as a death is certainly swimming in the shallow end of the gene pool. But hey even tards are welcome in a free mmo/fps.

Calm down killer.

[Sifer2]

Honestly they should not be counting deaths at all. We went over it in another thread way back some time ago. It encourages the K/D whore style of gameplay over teamwork. And makes you not want to play a support class that isn't good at getting kills as it just hurts your stupid ratio.

[Otleaz]

Remove every stat except facilities captured and facilities defended.

Even those two stats are pretty worthless, but they are better than the alternative. Score is meaningless in team games.

[Dougnifico]

No, but it should still count as a kill.