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View Poll Results: Would you like a single person mech in the game? (Please read the thread before posti | |||
I don't like single person bipedal mechs and don't want them in the game | 153 | 75.37% | |
I want single person mechs, but don't like this implementation. (Explain below) | 11 | 5.42% | |
I support this implementation | 28 | 13.79% | |
Other Reason (Explain below) | 11 | 5.42% | |
Voters: 203. You may not vote on this poll |
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2012-01-25, 05:16 PM | [Ignore Me] #421 | |||
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I just meant that I cannot read minds hence why I have no logical basis to support my opinion. So yes, it's all an assumption/opinion. The meaning associated to words is very much based on an individual's personal understanding of it. Words like freedom, courage and honor can be readily translated but contain a much greater meaning that may not be the same between individual and their culture. Kind of like how the definitions of what is a republican or democrat can even differ between members of a same party. Anyways, back to the topic, that's why it's hard to normalize ideas and meanings associated to words. I think people generally associate mechs to BFRs (as Big F****** Robots) whereas just saying bipeds would fit more your idea of mechs. Of course, both are mechanized and fit into the "mechs" category. Overall, I think most of what we read in this thread stems from different ideas being associated by each individual to the expression "single person mechs". Add-in the emotional factors from PS1 and single person MBTs and you realistically should not expect most to stay rational. ______ In the end, I think I understand what you mean and frankly, it would be possible to put light mech bipeds with height advantage and AI in PS2 but the important questions is how balanced it will be and how much room it will take roles-wise ? There was a great diversity of roles in PS1. When OP BFRs came in, they overtook over all roles for off-base fighting (either by being better or by preventing other playstyles to be viable). I believe that the important part of PS1 is to offer a niche room for all kinds of players so that they can enjoy what they like the most in large-scale battles. Large-scale should not be a small fight model multiplied x10 in scale. The scale should be used to offer more playstyle diversity. That's the kind of balance idea I am trying to convey. Light mechs ? Sure, why not. As long as they do not destroy the diversity in gameplay available in PS. So to summarize, yes, I agree with you that it's possible but it should not destroy other niches/roles. Edit: let me know if something is unclear due to language/grammar and I'll try to rephrase it. I can also detail more some ideas if it is unclear with this post. Thanks for understanding that I do not have a perfect english. FYI, just in case because there's always room to misinterpret written text: while some people are set in their crusade to prove people wrong, I do sincerely try to discuss ideas with people even though I may disagree with theirs. So if I sound like I come off too strong, it may be unintended. Just let me know. And <3 ! Last edited by sylphaen; 2012-01-25 at 05:22 PM. |
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2012-01-25, 06:15 PM | [Ignore Me] #423 | ||
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I like the idea of a "mech" being more of an Exo Suit rather than something like a BFR. Like an outdoor, Heavy MAX as has been said already. It could have about the same armor as a Lightning, maybe a little less with no shielding at all. And equip an AI/AV weapon, since the Lightning covers the AA aspect of the lighter vehicles. Like a machine gun and a shoulder mounted rocket launcher. Slower moving, but might be able to get places standard vehicles cannot.
The MBTs should be able to handle them easily 1v1. I would think the ExoSuit could be more like a Fire Support vehicle, it sticks with groups of infantry and lends its extra muscle. Great against softies and other light vehicles, weak against Aircraft, larger groups of softies, MBTs and other heavy vehicles. Kind of like those AMP suits from Avatar, they're larger than MAX suits, but not as huge and powerful as the BFRs were. I could also see how they could have utility outside of combat, such as a Heavy Lift vehicle for large engineering deployables or other heavy work. (Not that this should be included, but it makes a reason for them to exist in Lore for both combat and support work.) |
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2012-04-01, 11:37 PM | [Ignore Me] #424 | ||
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What if you made it so that 5 people, with different specialized MAX suits could combine them to form Voltron?
I would TOTALLY be down with that. And it would take five people... and you'd have to get the two guys in the legs to be really well coordinated. |
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2012-04-02, 12:04 AM | [Ignore Me] #425 | |||
Edit: ...and given the name, the irony is not lost on me Last edited by Grognard; 2012-04-02 at 12:05 AM. |
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2012-04-02, 01:21 AM | [Ignore Me] #426 | ||
Corporal
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New forum feature!
When the word(s) mech and/or robot show up in the title of a new post, the author is first sent to the other threads immediately upon hitting send. Then two large robotic, mech if you will, arms come out of their speakers and rip their eyelids off and hold their head in place so they are FORCED to read what has already been said time and time again: THERE WILL NOT BE MECH IN THE GAME NOW OR EVER. IT KILLED THE FIRST GAME AND IT WILL KILL THE SECOND They are a useless addition and, as Malorn already said COUNTLESS times, they serve no purpose other than to just be 'cool'. Do you want cool? or do you want a game that works? If you chose the former than may god have mercy on your soul. If you chose the former in PS1 then words cannot describe what should be done as punishment.
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2012-04-02, 01:49 AM | [Ignore Me] #428 | ||
Colonel
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Stop... If you are going to necro a 2 month old thread please take the time to read it in full and to understand both sides completely. Chances are your input or criticism is already covered after 29 pages. If you don't you end up with ignorant responses which look at problems as black and white like this:
So let this thread drop again unless after reading 29 pages you have useful feedback that wasn't already raised in the 6 other threads.
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2012-04-02, 03:09 AM | [Ignore Me] #429 | |||
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I think most people on this forums seams to be traumatized by the bfr from planetside so anything that looks like a bfr near and far Will be rejected whiout any consideration from those lol Thats sad to be so closed mind MEch can be really cool if they are done rigth We can also consider a MAX suit like a mini mech suits its a exoskeleton but tinyer than a MEch ! Mech if well balance can be great and also having custumisable mech can be even more awesome ! In every vehicules u can change the performance slots the weapons slots etc... So i dont see the problem i find ur idea iteresting and also i will have to say that Planetside 2 can be the num 1 game with diversity and a brillant open wold ! people should be more opens to new idea and change thats dont affect the core ! Its like if some people dont want planetside 2 they must keep playing PS1 its like the gameplay of planetside 2 will be like game like BF3 MAG COD etc.. and others modern FPS Ps1 was more like QUAKE , unreal tournament , or others games like this the gameplay itself the core will be totally different ! So it should be nice to not be closed mind to any idea and reject them whiout even try to give it a chance ! PS2 keep the open wold battle with real time strategies and awesome modern fps mechanics its not a copy and past of planetside 1 but it take the most important elements Open wold , great team work , great comunication systhem , 3 empires , 3 different look , and the most important the freedom in actions and strategies Last edited by Stew; 2012-04-02 at 03:14 AM. |
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2012-04-02, 03:23 AM | [Ignore Me] #430 | |||
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time have kill planetside 1 not bfr and bfr were not done rigth ! Mech can serve Multi purpose because you can change every part of a mech for the legs to the weapons etc.. if done rigth it can be great and cool ! So if i follow what u said previously when u say (((do you want cool stuff))) ill say YEAH ! i want cool and usefull stuff as well ! I want my NC armor to look cool why ? i dont even see myself ? rigth ? But i want to look cool because others will see me I want cool paint for my tanks because it will look more bad ass I will choose better games mechanics over cool stuff but i will not reject cool stuff to restrict my game experience to 1 ground vehicules such as 1 tank for NC ! I will take it as it is but down the road if the game suceed i would like to have more ad on and coll stuff but DONE RIght thats all ! So respect to mech and everything thats can be great if balenced ! Last edited by Stew; 2012-04-02 at 03:25 AM. |
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2012-04-02, 05:52 AM | [Ignore Me] #432 | ||
Can we beat it with a rubber hose first, plllleeeaaaasssseeee!
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