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2012-04-02, 08:24 PM | [Ignore Me] #197 | |||
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My comment should have been more clear. I took issue with your comment in how it seemed to suggest he followed him with the intention of doing harm. Also...I don't think the state legislature said, "Gee, let's make a law that let's people shoot whoever they want." Laws could always be made more clear. Perhaps this law does need to be changed. |
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2012-04-02, 08:28 PM | [Ignore Me] #198 | ||
And yet that's essentially the effect. The cops have to take the shooter's word for it and unless they have a witness or the event becomes a national thing, that's the end of it. I wonder how many situations have gone down like the Zimmerman-Martin one did, where someone kills someone else in self-defense and they simply take the shooter's word as gospel.
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2012-04-02, 09:37 PM | [Ignore Me] #199 | |||
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Anywho, I get your point, and for the most part agree with it. If the law is worded that anyone can shoot someone and claim self defense, then it needs to be changed. For now, I'll wait to see what the investigation find...was he actually defending himself...did he actually have a broken nose/was roughed up. |
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2012-04-02, 09:50 PM | [Ignore Me] #200 | ||
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Laws like this need to exist otherwise you have criminals suing homeowners when they cut their arms on the glass as they break into their homes.
It happens all the time in states like Massachusetts. Citizens who carry guns are not looking for reasons to get in a shootout. Quite the contrary however they hope they never have to use it but they have the piece of mind that if they need to they won't become a victim.
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2012-04-02, 10:52 PM | [Ignore Me] #201 | |||
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Someone got shot? OMG WHY????? WHY IS THERE A NEED FOR VIOLENCEEEEE????!!! |
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2012-04-02, 11:40 PM | [Ignore Me] #203 | |||
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The US is more like...Europe...some states are drastically different from one another..like setting foot in another country. California for instance has stricter gun laws than many southern states. (Not saying Florida and other states are horrible--I live in Alabama. Somewhat Liberal too. Yes, my life is interesting some days.--...but just thought I'd mention that.) |
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2012-04-03, 12:11 AM | [Ignore Me] #204 | |||
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2012-04-03, 03:00 AM | [Ignore Me] #205 | |||
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Obviously that's an indication of bad laws though, that a burglar can sue house owners for damage they did themselves while tresspassing. But that has nothing to do with the right to shoot them. That would be the right to cut them with glass. :s |
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2012-04-03, 04:16 AM | [Ignore Me] #207 | ||
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Never said there wasn't any bias on either side: as said before on several occassions, BOTH sides that claim to know for a 100% certainty if he is guilty or innocent of a hate crime before court has decided are biased. Anyone claiming Zimmerman should go free without trial is just as much biased as anyone saying he should be hang for racial murder right now.
Then again, "Yep, completely stable and rational people attending those rallies." Can I loan this non-argument/insult/insinuation/character murder of opposition/strawman/etc. for later debates? |
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2012-04-03, 04:46 AM | [Ignore Me] #208 | |||
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Could he then go and claim self-defense against self-defense? |
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2012-04-03, 08:28 AM | [Ignore Me] #209 | |||
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Everyone is screaming that Zimmerman MUST be racist because he killed a black child. But these are the types of people screaming that: Racists. Completely sane, rational people indeed. |
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2012-04-03, 09:03 AM | [Ignore Me] #210 | |||
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