PLease no grenades for Terran AV Max

oosik · 2012-04-04, 02:42 AM

Just got back into PS 1 to help prepare for PS2 and I am reminded again of how easy it is to kill a pounder: just advance into his fire and as he kills you, he kills himself. It would be nice to see a Terran AV max with a slightly heavier cycler with a different sound. No more grief, no more self-immolation.

Bags · 2012-04-04, 02:46 AM

All of the AV maxes murdered themselves.

DOUBLEXBAUGH · 2012-04-04, 02:54 AM

Originally Posted by Bags

All of the AV maxes murdered themselves.

Yea, 1 on 1 with any empires Av MAX it was best to charge in. MAXes get a melee in PS2 tho.

Bags · 2012-04-04, 04:40 AM

I think Higby said melee was semi-shelved for maxes at the moment.

DOUBLEXBAUGH · 2012-04-04, 05:04 AM

Hadn't seen that, but I don't use MAXes so doesn't really bother me.

sylphaen · 2012-04-04, 06:11 AM

Maybe you should rethink your positioning and the methods you use to take out vehicles.

- Buggies do not have enough armor to get close to you (unless you do not see them flank you).
- Tanks have enough armor to reach you if you spot them too late but even if you die while killing them, you destroy a 2-man vehicle with a 1-man weapon.
-The TR and NC MAX cannot stay on roads since they can be rammed. Only the VS MAX can avoid rams thanks to the jumpjets but in the end, a MAX in the middle of a road is vulnerable.

You should try to stay on hills, forests, towers, base walls, etc... and with some support. Otherwise, bring a vehicle to terrain that naturally favors vehicles.

TR AV MAX have an incredible DPS... Yes, they also an arc of fire which make them harder to use but as a mag driver, they are scary as hell: your armor drops in seconds.

IMO, it was a bit OP compared to the other AV MAX.

CutterJohn · 2012-04-04, 06:26 AM

Originally Posted by sylphaen

TR AV MAX have an incredible DPS... Yes, they also an arc of fire which make them harder to use but as a mag driver, they are scary as hell: your armor drops in seconds.

They may have had an arc, but they were easily the fastest shot speed as well, and arc was pretty minimal, nothing like the vanny/prowler. Those things were beasts.

Sadly, JJ was the only useful special for MAXs in the field.

Bravix · 2012-04-04, 12:33 PM

TR AV Max is amazing. That thing is the destroyer of Tanks and BFRs.

As stated above, you just gotta use the terrain to your advantage and your golden.

Geist · 2012-04-04, 12:57 PM

You can have my pounder when you pry my cold, dead, smelly body out of it's black and red shell.

Fenrys · 2012-04-04, 01:04 PM

Originally Posted by oosik

It would be nice to see a Terran AV max with a slightly heavier cycler with a different sound. No more grief, no more self-immolation.

There was a screen shot, I forget where, that looked like that's how they were going to do it.

One arm of the TR MAX had a gatling gun with 12 small caliber barrels, and the other arm had 8 larger caliber barrels. There was no commentary about the screen shot, so I just assumed that the larger caliber gun would be AV.

Destroyeron · 2012-04-04, 01:38 PM

I would really like to see the AI Max have the grenades back though.

Vansoth · 2012-04-04, 01:39 PM

The Pounder really shined as an AI MAX back in the day. Nothing could sweep a corridor clean like a deployed Pounder MAX. The DC MAX was AV and the Burster shells would detonate on contac with the ground so we could spam at a great distance to harass enemy infantry and vehicles before they could get into effective range. That was the golden age of the TR MAX.

headcrab13 · 2012-04-04, 02:32 PM

Originally Posted by oosik

Just got back into PS 1 to help prepare for PS2 and I am reminded again of how easy it is to kill a pounder: just advance into his fire and as he kills you, he kills himself. It would be nice to see a Terran AV max with a slightly heavier cycler with a different sound. No more grief, no more self-immolation.

I agree. In a Pounder you just feel a little too vulnerable for the tradeoff of low mobility and moderate damage. I understand that you have to balance MAXes against all the other players and abilities out there, but I'd rather not inadvertently kill myself that easily. Just making them slow enough to be vulnerable and requiring some teamwork to keep them repaired and rearmed would be a good balance, I think.

Talek Krell · 2012-04-04, 05:54 PM

Pah, this is ridiculous. You use a weapon wrong and complain when it doesn't work the way you want? The solution is to learn from your mistake, not change the game so it caters to your error.

**Malorn** · 2012-04-04, 06:13 PM

The only downside I saw to the AV weapons having small AOE was in close-quarters fighting when you could hurt yourself, or friendlies with no other recourse. The VS AV max had a burn-effect instead of an AOE effect, The NC and TR had splash damage to worry about.

On the upside the splash damage also meant you didn't need direct hits every time, and in the case of the TR max being locked down the rate of fire was so high even the splash damage became quickly lethal.