Cockpit View - [Now Forced per Higby] - Page 17

SKYeXile · 2012-04-19, 11:52 PM

Originally Posted by EVILPIG

I see fail.

pretty much sums up the poll pig, good observation.

Stardouser · 2012-04-19, 11:54 PM

Originally Posted by SKYeXile

Sometimes you need to read between the lines Malorn, CLEARLY this pole is going to have once sided results because one answer is unbalanced because it offers no terms or negatives to it. The pole obviously needed 3 options(As i said now 11 posts up) or the no needed to be clarified with a clause or negative to it like: at the loss of free look.

There were so many people who not only voted for forced cockpits, but posted a few words about it too, clearly indicating an understanding of the issue, that the results are clear even if you did somehow find some bias.

Loss of free look does NOT make turning the cockpit off appropriate. Free look should in fact be present regardless of cockpit on or off. The issue here is whether the cockpit view should be forced, not whether or not free look should exist.

EVILPIG · 2012-04-19, 11:54 PM

Originally Posted by SKYeXile

pretty much sums up the poll pig, good observation.

You're starting to sound upset and whiny.

Please post a new, unbias poll with better options. Please do this immediately, since you seem to think you already know what it should consist of. I give you 2 minutes. Go.

SKYeXile · 2012-04-19, 11:59 PM

Originally Posted by Stardouser

There were so many people who not only voted for forced cockpits, but posted a few words about it too, clearly indicating an understanding of the issue, that the results are clear even if you did somehow find some bias.

Loss of free look does NOT make turning the cockpit off appropriate. Free look should in fact be present regardless of cockpit on or off. The issue here is whether the cockpit view should be forced, not whether or not free look should exist.

If you read the thread, most people who voted for forced and posted in this thread voted yes because they said it would be unbalanced to play without the cockpit view, effectively rendering it useless.

EVILPIG · 2012-04-20, 12:01 AM

Originally Posted by SKYeXile

If you read the thread, most people who voted for forced and posted in this thread voted yes because they said it would be unbalanced to play without the cockpit view, effectively rendering it useless.

..and then? The poll is a simple question. The balance issues have been brought up by those who voted. All part of the reason they voted as such to answer the poll question. Which is simple, and unbias.

SKYeXile · 2012-04-20, 12:06 AM

Originally Posted by EVILPIG

..and then? The poll is a simple question. The balance issues have been brought up by those who voted. All part of the reason they voted as such to answer the poll question. Which is simple, and unbias.

no, they voted yes because they believed the alternative(as you stated) would be standard HUD elements, that are a clear advantage over cockpit view.

Red Beard · 2012-04-20, 12:12 AM

Starting to? lol

headcrab13 · 2012-04-20, 12:20 AM

I really like the cockpit design and think it should be forced for 1st person. As long as 3rd person is in, I'm a happy camper.

Flying, for me, is all about taking in the world design and epic scale of Planetside.

Stardouser · 2012-04-20, 12:22 AM

Originally Posted by headcrab13

I really like the cockpit design and think it should be forced for 1st person. As long as 3rd person is in, I'm a happy camper.

Flying, for me, is all about taking in the world design and epic scale of Planetside.

Didn't they also confirm 3rd person would be just for landing and stuff, and would have no targeting? (which is how it should be)

ArcIyte · 2012-04-20, 12:35 AM

Originally Posted by Malorn

Don't know if trolling or just stupid.

Malorn, I used to respect your posting, but now that you disagree with my completely illegible point you really are a full blown dumbie head

**Malorn** · 2012-04-20, 12:39 AM

Originally Posted by ArcIyte

Malorn, I used to respect your posting, but now that you disagree with my completely illegible point you really are a full blown dumbie head

I am indeed a terrible poster.

SKYeXile · 2012-04-20, 12:42 AM

Originally Posted by Malorn

If they don't force the cockpit it's a clear advantage for anyone who turns it off. At that point you'd be an idiot for not turning it off and most of the players wouldn't have it on.

The must be forced or it is meaningless.

Looks like pigs pole options got you to malorn.

Stardouser · 2012-04-20, 12:44 AM

Originally Posted by SKYeXile

Looks like pigs pole options got you to malorn.

Make your own poll. Better yet, before you do, post the options you would use here to vette them for bias.

**Malorn** · 2012-04-20, 12:46 AM

Here's Sky's version of the poll

Do you like being forced into having a cockpit view?
Yes - I like having my view artificially restricted
No - Player customization and freedom is important

Stardouser · 2012-04-20, 12:50 AM

Originally Posted by Malorn

Here's Sky's version of the poll

Do you like being forced into having a cockpit view?
Yes - I like having my view artificially restricted
No - Player customization and freedom is important

Right. The issue here is extremely simple - should the devs put lots of hours into 3D cockpits that some players will want to use, and indeed doing it in order make them want to use it, while at the same time giving players the option to remove it and have an unobstructed view, and advantage. How can you argue that people should be able to choose? If they can choose that, then I want to be able to choose to turn suppression effects off, bloody screen while damaged, vehicle animations, all of it. I'm not saying these things are being considered for PS2, but if they were, if you can turn your cockpit view off, then you should be able to turn all those things off. Wait, no, you shouldn't because that would give you an advantage.

View Poll Results: Should cockpit view be forced?
Yes	287	77.36%
No	84	22.64%
Voters: 371. You may not vote on this poll