Life beyond CR5/BR20 - suggestion

cpt crusader · 2004-03-16, 08:45 AM

Life beyond CR5/BR20

Gday all.

The battlefields have seen many a player maxed out at CR5. When the time comes that SOE see fit to extend this rank ceiling further, one possible senario I foresee is we will yet again hit another ceiling thus 'trodding down a never ending cycle of BR/CR level-ups'.

Granted, all CR5's have shared their identical commanding abilities throughout their career. Atleast up to now. Why not now make CR5 the crossroad where, for further level-ups, the Commander now has to choose which 'one' of several paths or fields to specialise in, each with its own sub tech tree of futher related level-ups. (Simular concept for vehicle/weapon/armor class certs)

CR5 --> CR6
..............+1 --> sub1 --> sub2 --> sub3
..............+2 --> sub1 --> sub2 --> sub3
..............+3 --> sub1 --> sub2 --> sub3

Naturally you can 'unlearn' your chosen field (or tech tree if you like) to follow a different specilisation but at the cost of loosing all sub-related abilities learnt of course.

Primarily I can foresee this aleviating the need for an ongoing 'stale model' levelup structure. Secondarily, providing for want of a better description, a more 'random or dynamic' battlefield experience where commanders who possess their chosen neiche, use of varied tactics akin to that particular specialisation. I could no doubt safely say this would add extra character immersion from simply offering more choices in our character building - adding to the "role playing" aspect this game so subtley yet beutifully incorporates.

As for life beyond BR20, who knows =)

Anyway, thats my two-cents and would like to appologise in advance should this idea already be kicking around. Thanks!

Krinsath · 2004-03-16, 09:02 AM

There is no plan currently to increase the level caps. BR20/CR5 is probably where it's going to be, so far as the Devs are willing to let on.

Now, there are some "post-BR20" abilities that are under discussion to be enhancements to certs you already have if you attain the "elite" status of BR20. Lock-on missiles for a Reaver, for instance (assuming they fix lock-on first).

I thought I saw Smoke discussing "command atrophy" where if you didn't lead for extended amounts of playtime, your CEP would be reduced. This in turn would reduce the number of CR5s out there because there can only be a finite number of SLs at one time. I personally don't like the idea due to the fact that it will be impossible for people to advance their own CRs if you have every CR5 on the world trying to keep a full squad so they can do OSes.

There needs to be something for the CRs, but damned if I can think of what. The specialist idea is a little too vague for me to get on board with right now, because I can't really think of what you mean to get an idea for abilities. What I'm coming up with is rather silly (a broadcast that would go out to anyone with a pilot cert on the continent for example...actually, I'd like that better than everyone getting the spam meant for pilots...in general...nevermind special abilities), so I don't know if that's just my own limited imagination. What kind of things were you thinking of?

Sploogey · 2004-03-16, 09:03 AM

yah this is already a heavily disputed topic
there is loads of BR 20 Cr 5 ppl out there and they really need something more and this seems to be a pretty good idea

Phaden · 2004-03-16, 12:34 PM

Well some of the past PSU dev talks havve saiud they will DEFINATELY eventually do something farther than BR20 and CR5. This had been confirmed at least once, but they are still thinking on how to do any of this. They had thought of those adv certs that just improve certain things as well as some other stuff. I cannot remember the specifics, but its in a dev talk maybe 3 ago?

Lartnev · 2004-03-16, 01:13 PM

It's on the February dev chat. Paraphrasing SmokeJumper: "Outfit Base ownership has been put on hold so we can work on post battle rank 20 features."

May come up again tonight

Peacemaker · 2004-03-16, 03:44 PM

They have already said eventualy they will have to increase BR limits.

Lartnev · 2004-03-16, 03:52 PM

That's.... not good news.

But where did you read it?

HawkEye · 2004-03-16, 06:09 PM

i wouldnt mind have higher BR than 20. i just want sumthing to get rid of extra cert point many peeps have laying around once they reach br20.

as for beyond cr5 i dont really care.

Red October · 2004-03-16, 06:22 PM

I think sub-units and specializations for CR5's is a really good idea. Maybe even make it Outfit specific (put more emphasis on outfits) with the top CR5's of the top outfits (i.e most organized) having the most control globaly (eliminates CR5 Global Spam bickering to some extent).

As for BR20's...well once your at that point, your an elite status. Maybe you should have some elite abilities and privlages. What the hell, lets throw in something insane. Introduce the effects of age. Longer you play BR20 (game time), age starts to hinder some of your abilities (can't run as fast, less health, eyesight gets poor, bladder problems...ok maybe not bladder problems).

ZionsFire · 2004-03-16, 06:26 PM

Originally Posted by Red October

I think sub-units and specializations for CR5's is a really good idea. Maybe even make it Outfit specific (put more emphasis on outfits) with the top CR5's of the top outfits (i.e most organized) having the most control globaly (eliminates CR5 Global Spam bickering to some extent).

As for BR20's...well once your at that point, your an elite status. Maybe you should have some elite abilities and privlages. What the hell, lets throw in something insane. Introduce the effects of age. Longer you play BR20 (game time), age starts to hinder some of your abilities (can't run as fast, less health, eyesight gets poor, bladder problems...ok maybe not bladder problems).

My guy would be like 500 years old

Dharkbayne · 2004-03-16, 06:37 PM

Originally Posted by Red October

I think sub-units and specializations for CR5's is a really good idea. Maybe even make it Outfit specific (put more emphasis on outfits) with the top CR5's of the top outfits (i.e most organized) having the most control globaly (eliminates CR5 Global Spam bickering to some extent).

As for BR20's...well once your at that point, your an elite status. Maybe you should have some elite abilities and privlages. What the hell, lets throw in something insane. Introduce the effects of age. Longer you play BR20 (game time), age starts to hinder some of your abilities (can't run as fast, less health, eyesight gets poor, bladder problems...ok maybe not bladder problems).

That's just stupid. The higher your BR gets the worse your character gets?

I PROCLAIM THIS THE:

WORST

IDEA

EVER.

WritheNC · 2004-03-16, 06:37 PM

I don't really see any need for advancement beyond 20/5.

I mean, this isn't an RPG. Higher BR just gives you more choices and ways to fight.

If people can play CS and BF1942 with no real reward out of it(no matter how much you play, you're not going to be a higher "level" or have more exp than the next guy), why can't PS?

Red October · 2004-03-16, 06:55 PM

That's just stupid. The higher your BR gets the worse your character gets?

No, not stupid...but insane. Oh, and have some humor there will ya.

Cryptica · 2004-03-17, 02:24 AM

I think the higher advancement is a great idea, and cpt's ideas are great as well. I hope the devs take note of it.

oddfish · 2004-03-17, 04:02 AM

I dunno. I just think it should be a little more difficult to reach CR5.. if you think about it, there's gonna be quite a few more CR5's in a month from now. What's it gonna be like when we have to deal with a two dozen guys spamming the shit out of global because all the 14 year olds out there who've attained CR5 want to bicker over whether or not troops should go to Ceryshen or Cyssor?

I dunno, perhaps there should be another CR rank, a final rank that is the end all be all for command rank. It's only attainable once you've successfully hacked so many bases and have done so as a CR5. Or maybe there should be a kind of community related thing that involves selecting certain CR5's for a superior command role.

I dunno, this is probably really convoluted and perhaps a little too unrefined, or maybe the coding wouldn't even allow for this kind of stuff.

I just don't want to have to deal with fifty zillion cr5's bickering like asshats over global in a couple months. It's hard enough any more to be able to decipher to garbage on global let alone choose a leader worth following. Imagine it in eight weeks. Ugh,