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Old 2012-07-23, 01:31 PM   [Ignore Me] #1
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Vanu weapon recoil


Theres been some confusion, atleast on my part, regarding the VS and their recoil.

The chart thingy that was supposed to explain the factions in PS1 (it's been floating around on the web, a really handy thing) seemed to indicate that the VS weaponry would have medium rate of fire, high accuracy and high recoil.

EDIT: Found it!


But have heard from several sources that "high" in that chart actually ment "good," and thus the Vanu have medium rof, good accuracy and good recoil. Good recoil obviously means low recoil.
I guess you can see the confusion.

Maybe someone who may or may not be in the technical test could shed some light on this for me?

So, once and for all: High recoil or low recoil?

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Old 2012-07-23, 01:39 PM   [Ignore Me] #2
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As long as the accuracy is high, what does recoil matter? You wont be feeling it.

Edit: I gues that would mean a large CoF.
But come on. No bullet drop and no recoil? What else do you want, hovering tanks too? And aircraft that can turn on a dime?
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Old 2012-07-23, 01:41 PM   [Ignore Me] #3
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You VS have High accuracy
You have little recoil
and you have medium damage
You have medium recoil

basically it will be easy for you
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Old 2012-07-23, 01:42 PM   [Ignore Me] #4
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Originally Posted by WiteBeam View Post
As long as the accuracy is high, what does recoil matter? You wont be feeling it.
accuracy and recoil mean 2 very differents things
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Old 2012-07-23, 01:43 PM   [Ignore Me] #5
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Originally Posted by Top Sgt View Post
You VS have High accuracy
You have little recoil
and you have medium damage
You have medium recoil

basically it will be easy for you
But his confusion has to do with the chart that says otherwise.
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Old 2012-07-23, 01:43 PM   [Ignore Me] #6
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Originally Posted by WiteBeam View Post
As long as the accuracy is high, what does recoil matter? You wont be feeling it.
^^^This

The high/good accuracy means low/non existent recoil. To give something the label of high accuracy, the amount of recoil is considered. They go hand and hand.

So hopefully this answers your questions OP.
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Old 2012-07-23, 01:46 PM   [Ignore Me] #7
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Originally Posted by WiteBeam View Post
But his confusion has to do with the chart that says otherwise.
Negative that's exactly how the chart reads

take us TR for example

We have medium accuracy to begin with that drops off but less of a drop off than the NC ( they have stronger BL Damage per shot)

We have very managble recoil with our initial 2 to 3 shots but then if you hold down trigger recoil is highest in game

highest ROF in game but lowest damage per bullet.

And that's exactly how it's playing out in "real time"

High on the chart means "good or managable in game Low on chart means "high in game or crazy recoil etc

But I do think there is a typo on the vanu part with the high accuracy part.

I'm no expert tho. i could be wrong

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Old 2012-07-23, 01:47 PM   [Ignore Me] #8
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I am guessing High recoil means it is very easily controlled. As TR are high initial and low sustained. AKA cycler being accurate in burst and god awful in full auto.
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Old 2012-07-23, 01:47 PM   [Ignore Me] #9
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Originally Posted by WiteBeam View Post
As long as the accuracy is high, what does recoil matter? You wont be feeling it.

Edit: I gues that would mean a large CoF.
But come on. No bullet drop and no recoil? What else do you want, hovering tanks too? And aircraft that can turn on a dime?
When did I say I wanted anything?

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^^^This

The high/good accuracy means low/non existent recoil. To give something the label of high accuracy, the amount of recoil is considered. They go hand and hand.

So hopefully this answers your questions OP.
Actually, no. I am still as confused as before.

High accuracy means that the first shots you fire will have a high chance of travelling down a straight line from your crosshairs to your target. Bullet spread is another word for this.

Recoil, by contrast, is the distance your weapon is displaced (vertically or horizontally) with each shot.
They are completely different things.
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Old 2012-07-23, 01:49 PM   [Ignore Me] #10
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Re: Vanu weapon recoil


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Negative that's exactly how the chart reads
What?

Let me clarify:

Does "High" recoil on the chart mean:

Lots of recoil;

or

Very little recoil?
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Old 2012-07-23, 01:53 PM   [Ignore Me] #11
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Originally Posted by EisenKreutzer View Post
When did I say I wanted anything?



Actually, no. I am still as confused as before.

High accuracy means that the first shots you fire will have a high chance of travelling down a straight line from your crosshairs to your target. Bullet spread is another word for this.

Recoil, by contrast, is the distance your weapon is displaced (vertically or horizontally) with each shot.
They are completely different things.
I'm trying to tell you that the lingo used in the chart is confusing... but in terms of actual gameplay in PS2... the "high accuracy" label means low recoil, bullet spread, etc. Most guns first shot will be accurate.

To give an example of what I mean, if you played COD MW2... the ACR had very low recoil, which gave the gun laser like accuracy.

You have to remove real world idea/perception of what recoil and accuracy means. I'm trying to help you in such a way without having to say directly...
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Old 2012-07-23, 01:54 PM   [Ignore Me] #12
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I'm confused.
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Old 2012-07-23, 01:54 PM   [Ignore Me] #13
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i really do believe the vanu accuracy part was a mistake on that chart.

Everything else lines up with "in game" except for the high in the VS accuracy part.

Edit.. nevermind after going over the chart again... I think many parts of it are incorrect.

i think SOE needs to give a better chart because this one is broken.

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Old 2012-07-23, 01:54 PM   [Ignore Me] #14
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Originally Posted by EisenKreutzer View Post
What?

Let me clarify:

Does "High" recoil on the chart mean:

Lots of recoil;

or

Very little recoil?
I'll spell it out for you.

HIGH RECOIL on that chart probably means = very low recoil.

We are using the TR Cycler as a comparison to understand the chart.
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Old 2012-07-23, 01:55 PM   [Ignore Me] #15
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Originally Posted by Ranik Ortega View Post
I'll spell it out for you.

HIGH RECOIL on that chart probably means = very low recoil.

We are using the TR Cycler as a comparison to understand the chart.
Because that makes PERFECT sense. Whoever made that chart needs their ass kicked...
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