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Old 2013-01-20, 09:03 AM   [Ignore Me] #1
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maybe we should upvote this?


maybe we should upvote this? or at least give some feedback on it so we have a change of getting some resource restructuring during the design meeting
http://fr.reddit.com/r/Planetside/co...ce_management/
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Old 2013-01-20, 09:30 AM   [Ignore Me] #2
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http://www.reddit.com/r/Planetside/c..._manipulation/

What does vote manipulation look like? Lets look at the following paraphrased statements, all of which imply vote manipulation:
- I had this great idea guys. Upvote it so everyone can see it!
- MohawkSealedUnneurotic posted this thread. Downvote that asshole respectable person
- HATE ARC BIO UPVOTE THIS THREAD ON REDDIT
- All these other outfits suck downvote them
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Old 2013-01-20, 09:40 AM   [Ignore Me] #3
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And herein lies the problem with Reddit.
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Old 2013-01-20, 09:49 AM   [Ignore Me] #4
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Re: maybe we should upvote this?


Originally Posted by KaskaMatej View Post
http://www.reddit.com/r/Planetside/c..._manipulation/

What does vote manipulation look like? Lets look at the following paraphrased statements, all of which imply vote manipulation:
- I had this great idea guys. Upvote it so everyone can see it!
- MohawkSealedUnneurotic posted this thread. Downvote that asshole respectable person
- HATE ARC BIO UPVOTE THIS THREAD ON REDDIT
- All these other outfits suck downvote them
that was not my point at all . that was not my reddit post at all . i just wanted to give attention to it because i feel like resources feel pointless right now :/

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Old 2013-01-20, 09:50 AM   [Ignore Me] #5
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Re: maybe we should upvote this?


It's no different than some of our local "ideasmiths" - post a thread and then link and pimp it in every vaguely related thread on the front page ad nauseum. Reddit just makes the process quantifiable.
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Old 2013-01-20, 09:53 AM   [Ignore Me] #6
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Originally Posted by Phantomdestiny View Post
that was not my point at all . that was not my reddit post at all . i just wanted to give attention to it because i feel like resources feel pointless right now :/
It's not about who's post it is, it's about if mods detect any manipulation, they will delete the post, no matter how good it is.
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Old 2013-01-20, 09:57 AM   [Ignore Me] #7
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Originally Posted by KaskaMatej View Post
It's not about who's post it is, it's about if mods detect any manipulation, they will delete the post, no matter how good it is.
imo publicity =/= manipulation
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Old 2013-01-20, 10:01 AM   [Ignore Me] #8
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Originally Posted by Phantomdestiny View Post
imo publicity =/= manipulation
Your opinion doesn't matter when it comes to moderation of Reddit.
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Old 2013-01-20, 10:02 AM   [Ignore Me] #9
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Originally Posted by Phantomdestiny View Post
imo publicity =/= manipulation
You're right, of course; it's very easy to be cynical where reddit's concerned, even for no reason.
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Old 2013-01-20, 10:48 AM   [Ignore Me] #10
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It's kinda hard to judge here. I mean, you're not trying to push a subjective opinion of yourself or your outfit over someone else's, but trying to call attention to a decent, well-thought-through Idea.

Problem is, according to other posters here, is that other people are also putting up similar Ideas and you MAY be seen as trying to push one Idea above the others, no matter what your association with it.


I agree that resources feel intangible. I agree that vote manipulation for petty, unconstructive reasons is bad. It's just that all creative people here got their own Ideas, and why we need to get them all out there, it's hard to get them all out equally.


If you can, collect them, list them, show list to as many devs as possible. And that'd fix this thread's point as well.
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Old 2013-01-20, 10:54 AM   [Ignore Me] #11
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Originally Posted by maradine View Post
You're right, of course; it's very easy to be cynical where reddit's concerned, even for no reason.
it is deplorable that the world does run on selfishness but it will keep on doing so if people do nothing about it just because they become too cynic . it becomes a vicious circle.

the treads is no longer about resources ; so we can make a discussion about how to make a reliable resource system or close this tread before it becomes a philosophical/political argument
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Old 2013-01-20, 10:59 AM   [Ignore Me] #12
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Originally Posted by EvilNinjadude View Post
It's kinda hard to judge here. I mean, you're not trying to push a subjective opinion of yourself or your outfit over someone else's, but trying to call attention to a decent, well-thought-through Idea.

Problem is, according to other posters here, is that other people are also putting up similar Ideas and you MAY be seen as trying to push one Idea above the others, no matter what your association with it.


I agree that resources feel intangible. I agree that vote manipulation for petty, unconstructive reasons is bad. It's just that all creative people here got their own Ideas, and why we need to get them all out there, it's hard to get them all out equally.


If you can, collect them, list them, show list to as many devs as possible. And that'd fix this thread's point as well.
well your last point makes a lot of sense maybe i should start to compile ALL the reddit ideas and send them to the appropriate devs
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Old 2013-01-20, 11:09 AM   [Ignore Me] #13
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We might not (or should not) upvote the Reddit post but we CAN discuss it here and/or on Reddit.

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Old 2013-01-20, 11:15 AM   [Ignore Me] #14
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Originally Posted by Hamma View Post
And herein lies the problem with Reddit.
We should do this on 4chan next time.
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Old 2013-01-20, 11:16 AM   [Ignore Me] #15
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Re: maybe we should upvote this?


I posted up 4 MDMI entries and din't link them here once, just for the fairness of competition. I posted a double of on of the ideas here as a separate post without any links to reddit, since I wanted some discussion. Linking it with words "please upvote" will only result in votewars, which I perfectly understand the damage of, since reddit is not the only site that uses that system.



But if you want my opinion on it, here's the deal:
I like it. Very complex, yet very intuitive. Especially for anyone that Played "tiberian CnC's"
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