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Old 2004-03-23, 05:48 PM   [Ignore Me] #1
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okay, lets say there are 100 vangurads and 100 prowlers. who do you think would win? as for myself, I have no clue...
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Old 2004-03-23, 05:53 PM   [Ignore Me] #2
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Depends, are they both fully manned? If so, I'd put my money on the Prowlers. 100 12mm guns should make short work of any [/i]vehicle[/i]. The Prowler has a shorter TTK vs a Vanguard too, so again, I'd say the Prowlers.
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Old 2004-03-23, 05:54 PM   [Ignore Me] #3
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Prowlers if they had machine gunners, Vangaurds otherwise.
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Old 2004-03-23, 05:56 PM   [Ignore Me] #4
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Neither.

It's the crew that counts, not the tank.
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Old 2004-03-23, 05:58 PM   [Ignore Me] #5
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We're talking hypothetically, if all the crews had the exact same skill level.

A more accurate comparison would be 99 vanguards and 66 prowlers, since that would equate to the same amount of gunners. In that situation, the Vanguards, hand down.
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Old 2004-03-23, 06:01 PM   [Ignore Me] #6
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Yeah, if you made it 99 and 66 it would easily be the vans, but that doesn't make any sense. Yeah, you have more gunners, but its 99 cannons vs. 66 cannons/66 mg's. The cannons would easily take out the prowlers much faster.

Edit: Not to mention, for every prowler you kill, you kill 2 gunners, for ever vangaurd, you only lose one.
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Old 2004-03-23, 06:03 PM   [Ignore Me] #7
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Yes but I'm saying for the amount of people. It would take 198 Gunners and Drivers to fill up 99 vanguards, and it would take 198 Gunners and Drivers to fill up 66 Prowlers.
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Old 2004-03-23, 06:06 PM   [Ignore Me] #8
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i wuold put money on the vangaurds.
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Old 2004-03-23, 06:32 PM   [Ignore Me] #9
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I think it would depend on the driver and gunner(s) of the two types of tanks. They are both pretty even.
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Old 2004-03-23, 06:36 PM   [Ignore Me] #10
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Due to Prowler spam it'd be the prowler.
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Old 2004-03-23, 06:38 PM   [Ignore Me] #11
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A horde of Magriders would roll in and own all of 'em.
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Old 2004-03-23, 06:42 PM   [Ignore Me] #12
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Vanguards

12mm is crap and the prowler is just too slow. The strongpoints of the Prowler having the 12mm are not present in this scenario. 12mm is only good at killing infantry, scaring off reavers and being able to focus on 2 different targets simultainiously. If it were 100 Magriders vs Prowlers, I would however go with the Prowlers.

Also as Chewy pointed out, you would have 1/3rd more players on the prowler side. It stands to reason that a much larger force should win. Sadly in this scenario I think the much larger force would actually lose

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Old 2004-03-23, 06:49 PM   [Ignore Me] #13
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99vs66, vangaurds ofcourse. Really you basicly outnumber them due to firepower You could 2+ vangaurds for every tank (not in the beginning, but after the first few prowlers are gone).

1 fully maned prowler is suppose to equal a vangaurd, yes?

So make it 100vs100 game on flat ground divided by some stupid line. Make them all dumb founded then its a 50 50 chance, give them a prime leader and you got yourself a game.

Give the 66 prowlers a leader and they could win.

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Old 2004-03-23, 06:53 PM   [Ignore Me] #14
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1 fully maned prowler is suppose to equal a vangaurd, yes?
I think that is the general idea but given equal crew skills, thats not how it works out. At least in all my time playing since the ballance pass. The armor of the Vanguard more than makes up for any insignificant damage superiority the Prowler is supposed to have
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Old 2004-03-23, 06:55 PM   [Ignore Me] #15
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Prowlers would win, they have the easier guns, and since the sides are skills even, the easier guns win.

Anyone who says the 12mm can't make a difference has never had a Mosquito playing tag with your ass...

The speed difference between the Prowler and Vanguard is 4kph...that wont be changing any battles...

The only way the battle would be won by the Vanguards is if everyone of their shots landed, which is harder than you think...

If the Prowlers lost I would be surprised...

You wouldn't need 100 of each though, just 10 would be sufficient...

PS: If the Van's and Prowler's armor were switched, there would be a new king on the battlefield (I like the idea, because Im tired of fighting shitty opponents)...
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