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2005-03-07, 03:25 AM | [Ignore Me] #1 | ||
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One thing I've always wondered is the effectiveness and reasoning behind the existance of the deliverer. Whichever cert pack you get it with, you always will certify both the deliverer and your empire specific variant.
As a TR I cannot find any advantage whatsoever in using a deliv over a raider. The deliv packs 2 20mm guns while the raider has 4 15mm guns. Frankly the ratio of 2 to 1 seems to outweigh the difference in ammunition. Even If I was in a scenario where I was pulling it to transport only two friendlies, I would probably pull a marauder for speed and the beloved ground pounder. Does anyone have any insight to the Deliverer? |
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2005-03-07, 04:11 AM | [Ignore Me] #2 | |||
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2005-03-07, 10:31 PM | [Ignore Me] #5 | |||
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2005-03-08, 12:06 AM | [Ignore Me] #6 | |||
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2005-03-08, 02:26 AM | [Ignore Me] #7 | ||
Actually, still wrong. The Deliverer does have 2 20mm guns, but it is more effective against all vehicles and armored units than the 15mms. 12mm do the best damage versus infantry and other very lightly armored targets, which is why they are actually somewhat effective versus aircraft (which don't have much in terms of damage absorbtion in their armor). But 20mm machineguns are the best against all types of ground and air in the game (other than Liberator nosegun and tail gun).
So, if you only have 2 gunners handy, a Deliverer would fare better versus aircraft or enemy vehicles than a Raider with just 2 15mm gunners. With the added speed, it also is a bit more capable of pulling out of a sticky situation or chasing down an armored target. IMO, the Deliverer Variants are all overpowered, but the Devs haven't changed them so I'm assuming that we're stuck with them this way and should just get used to it... |
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2005-03-08, 10:54 AM | [Ignore Me] #8 | ||
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I don't know though - again it all goes back to the simple concept of 4 guns to 2. In my experience when gunning a raider and some jackass reaver does his little hover in to spray his missles, we down him like a brick.
But again, I'm a TR, so I guess as far as I should be concerned, Deliv = 5 man amphibious transport and raider = 5 man crewed combat vehicle? |
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2005-03-08, 01:10 PM | [Ignore Me] #9 | ||||
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2005-03-08, 11:42 PM | [Ignore Me] #11 | ||
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The deliverer is pretty underestimated ;D
I've actually found it's the perfect vehicle to compliment the Magrider. Same speed, Same Float, Same Range Odd number of Gunners, and extra seats. Together, you got better AA than a Skyguard. Hell, I like rolling a bunch of em. Takes only 3 to wax a Gunner BFR without any casualties. Although I've done it before with only 1. Deliverer is probably my favorite ground vehicle Although, dunno if I had access to Thunderer or Raider. Since I'm VS haven't really had much access. But as far as cheap, reliable transport that gets half a squad moving around Deliverer is where it's at. Only thing it can't do is drive with Rexo, or passenger seats for Maxes. Which can usually be remedied with AdvHack, AMS or a Tower.
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2005-03-14, 10:41 PM | [Ignore Me] #15 | |||
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and am i the only one who noticed that router pad? and it looks like an NC is hotdropping
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