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View Poll Results: How do you, as an American, see yourselves?
This world is basically ours, we are the biggest we should do whatever we want. 11 28.21%
We aren't really a part of this world. We are more or less above the rest of the world, in another league. 4 10.26%
Yes we are part of this world just like anybody, we shouldn't have any special previleges. 17 43.59%
Other 7 17.95%
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Old 2003-01-30, 12:38 PM   [Ignore Me] #1
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Question about Americans (NO FLAMING or else!)


Ok i saw this and wondered :
WE SHOULD THROW UP A WALL AND LET THE WORLD ROT IN IT'S OWN SH*T. Every political thread I read has spinless people that really don't understand what they are saying..... this is NOT an OIL WAR, or a BUSH WAR, it is about the saftey of the world. If the rest of the world would have gotten off their collective asses instead baskin in their own complacancy then maybe the terroist cells would be less prevelent and other atrocisties in the world would be fewer in number. Fact is that most countries sit around and wait for the US to get around to helping them. We can't do it all and it is time other countries do their part as WORLD CITIZENS... Dammit you guys have me worked up.....
This is a serious question, i'm in no way trying to piss off or bitch about anything or anyone!

So keep it civil, respectful and intelligent.
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Old 2003-01-30, 12:44 PM   [Ignore Me] #2
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Old 2003-01-30, 12:57 PM   [Ignore Me] #3
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With great power comes great responsibility. Someone has to maintain the balance.

Does anyone have any other countries they would nominate for this duty?
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Old 2003-01-30, 01:01 PM   [Ignore Me] #4
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Originally posted by Manitou
With great power comes great responsibility. Someone has to maintain the balance.

Does anyone have any other countries they would nominate for this duty?
I wish we would just acknowledge our empire status.
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Old 2003-01-30, 01:03 PM   [Ignore Me] #5
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The American Empire... has a nice ring to it
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Old 2003-01-30, 01:14 PM   [Ignore Me] #6
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Originally posted by BLuE_ZeRO
The American Empire... has a nice ring to it
And then they can't throw any Voltairesque quotes at us like, "The Holy Roman Empire was neither Holy, nor Roman nor an Empire."
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Old 2003-01-30, 01:16 PM   [Ignore Me] #7
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I'm sorry i posted that excerpt that dio put out... I was angry.... but it frustrates me b/c I feel honestly that our intentions are good and all we do is catch flak for it. Manitou is right.... noone else could do it. Sorry for that post again.. but it is how i feel.
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Old 2003-01-30, 01:19 PM   [Ignore Me] #8
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Like i said KoldFusion i'm in no way saying it was bad or wrong or whatever. It just got me wondering how the american people sees itself. Don't worry you're not the first too sound like that.
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Old 2003-01-30, 01:25 PM   [Ignore Me] #9
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I think that we can do whatever we want, but we should not think of ourselves as so righteous and noble.

Since we are on top of the pile we should also expect to take some extra grief for what we do. If a country sees the worlds hegemon flexing it's military power a great deal, it gets worried. It worries about how far the US is willing to go with that power. It will also do its very best to assist the international community in trying to check that hegemon's power.
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Old 2003-01-30, 02:14 PM   [Ignore Me] #10
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Here's the way I see it. American people, for the most part, have an idea of what their country is. The rest of the world generally has a different idea. America just kind of reminds me of that kid that really thinks he's cool, but all the other kids are laughing at him behind his back.
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Old 2003-01-30, 02:18 PM   [Ignore Me] #11
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How about Canada just cuts off all the fresh watter.electricity,minerals.metal,trees and forestry products .
and we will see how long the states lasts behind its wall .

Canada and Russia are the 2 only countries in the world that are completely self sufficient ,if you put a bubble over the states it would fall appart . as powerful as the military is the US consumes to much for its own good.
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Old 2003-01-30, 02:31 PM   [Ignore Me] #12
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Alaska ever ring a bell ABRAXAAS

I went for league of our own, its not really what i believe but its the closest and i completely glossed over the other button.
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Old 2003-01-30, 02:33 PM   [Ignore Me] #13
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Canada self sufficient? lmfao! you put a bubble over us and Canada becomes New New Mexico.
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Old 2003-01-30, 02:34 PM   [Ignore Me] #14
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I think we are worse than other countries because we feel we can do whatever we want. Our government holds economic prosperity over weaker countries and challenges them to defy us. Alot of people in this country believe we are invincible, if we continue down the current path, alot of people are going to see that we aren't.
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Old 2003-01-30, 02:46 PM   [Ignore Me] #15
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People don't think we can do whatever we want. We do what has to be done within reason. The fact that other countries don't like it is their fault. Other countries don't like the fact that we're taking steps to remove a terrorist leader from power... hmmm ok so we'll just leave someone who has the sanity of well... charles manson, in control of a country. Gotcha...

It's about time other countries got their heads out of their asses and realized that terrorism isn't going to just work itself out. We're taking steps to minimize terrorist attacks around the world because no one else will. We aren't flexing our muscle for the sake of just flexing muscle we're doing it to solve a global problem. The fact that the other countries realize it is just an example of how naive their leaders/people are. The sad thing is it's not only other countries.

We have some of that same naive thoughts running through people around our country as well. I was watching an interview at a college in my state right after the State of the Union address. A student said "Well it's obvious that Bush doesn't write his own speeches and uh I don't really agree with anything he's saying especially this war on Iraq, it's just pointless." I felt like jumping through the TV and beating his head in for being a damn idiot but I figured I probably shouldn't assault my precious tv.

In all seriousness though, terrorism is a problem that needs to be addressed now before it gets further out of hand much like Al Quaida did.
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