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Old 2004-08-08, 05:42 AM   [Ignore Me] #31
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Mont is usually the longest battle on Solsar. Seth is merely the thing we have to take out to gain vehicular superiority.

Well at least when I was an NC CR5...
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Old 2004-08-08, 08:59 AM   [Ignore Me] #32
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ok first off I'm tired of people moaning and groaning about the CR5's and then sitting back and saying that getting cep is useless try and do something about it, I'm working on getting cep right now it's not like it is all that hard if you do what incomp calls exp whoring
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Old 2004-08-08, 09:17 AM   [Ignore Me] #33
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I am in the Enclave.... and all i know, is that we never follow the zerg. We are always ahead of it. We alone... 20-30 of us... have hacked a base, held it, captured it, then waited for reinforcements. Then, we load a gal, raider, or deli, and head out to the next base. Capture that, and the Zerg is there. Thats how it works.
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Old 2004-08-08, 09:47 AM   [Ignore Me] #34
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I don't think CR5s are entirely to blame, although the attitude of some of them is baffling at times.

The first thing to consider is communication, and as we know information is ammunition. Someone mentioned earlier that CR5s just follow the hotspots, well in a way that's their best indication that a position needs assistance. People don't tend to report things up the chain of command, mainly because it's a lot easier just to report it on teamspeak to their fellow squadmates.

The second is the amount of control a CR5 actually has, and in general the most he or she can do is direct a zerg by global or continent chat. The fabled commanders list would greatly help with this regard, perhaps even a task system that CR5s can add to and squad/platoon leaders request to carry out. Perhaps it could be scaled so only CR1s see a CR2's task, only CR1s and CR2s can see CR3 tasks etc so it preserves the chain of command.
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Old 2004-08-08, 02:19 PM   [Ignore Me] #35
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Yes, but do you know why people don't tell the CR5's anything anymore? Because they never listened in the first place.
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Old 2004-08-08, 02:22 PM   [Ignore Me] #36
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Most of them don't have a problem listening when I tell them things.. maybe you shouldn't phrase the tell to resemble and insult.. it general gets you better results. The main reason I don't ever want to get CR5 is because I don't feel like dealing with the zerging idiots.
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Old 2004-08-08, 02:26 PM   [Ignore Me] #37
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Just wait till I get CR 5.. bwahahah
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Old 2004-08-08, 04:23 PM   [Ignore Me] #38
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Originally Posted by Cauldron Borne
I thought there WAS something like that... only it was Ventrillo....
There are several. ULTRA Alliance (TR-Emerald) has one, the CR5 boards that KAAOS runs used to have one... take your pick of several more.
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Old 2004-08-08, 08:44 PM   [Ignore Me] #39
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I don't insult them when I tell them, that's just it.

Me: There's a group of 10 mags heading toward us from the south, they have Reaver support.

CR5: That's great, go kill them for me bitch.

Me: They will stop our attack on the tower, we have no armor.

CR5: Fill out the form and I'll send you a lightning.

Me: Go to hell.

This was an actual conversation I had with a CR5. I had never talked to him before this. Five mins later we all got killed and were then yelled at by our COs.
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Old 2004-08-08, 11:33 PM   [Ignore Me] #40
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*looks back at past posts*

umm....my remarks about how the TR are never outplayed DO sound arrogant, my bad. But it SEEMS like the reasons we've been losing as of late are:
1) The CR5's don't support offensives that they themselves didn't order
2) they call us away as soon as another continent is attacked
3) they give tactically suicidal orders that cost us everything (happened this morning...grr)
4) they don't co-ordinate with each other or non-cr5's and constantly give contradicting orders
5) they have a sort of supremacist way of thinking, where everyone who trys to lead and is not a cr5 must be stupid and cannot possibly lead effectivly....(not everyone, but a good part of it)


and Cyrus.... so i added an extra letter to your name. I called you a tree....big shmeal...

And the other guy who wonders if I've ever fought in seth: yes i have, I've been on both ends of an offensive on seth numerous times. I know what happens to a footzerg in that hell-hole. It is a good foot hold, a good line of defence, and a good alamo. It separates the northeast and -west hemispheres of solsar. from it you can get to the two key bases in the north of solsar: mont and hapi. and when you are forced back into Seth as your last line of defence, nothing is harder to get into than Seth when you have good defence at every entrance.
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Old 2004-08-09, 01:02 AM   [Ignore Me] #41
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Originally Posted by Cauldron Borne
Ok, I've been a true and through TR-E player since I BOUGHT this game. The CR5's ARE screwing this up. Sorry Cyrus, but you're wrong. The CR5's are being rather stupid. If we are WINNING on a continent, then don't recall. That is stupid. It puts TR in a continuous state of defence and losing.

Sometimes it a good idea to recall but not to attack somewhere else. If your a big TR player on emerald then you should know about the a.s.s plan. The tr held those three conts for what? At least two weeks? And that lasted because of recall orders to defend. I know what you mean most of the tr cr5s on emerald suck they say things along these lines: "this is primary blah! this is secondary blah." Most of them dont setup raids and most of the time the tr are just zergin it up running blind. I dont mind pulling off conts to defend but being told to recall to attack somewhere else now thats a different story.
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Old 2004-08-09, 01:09 AM   [Ignore Me] #42
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Hmm, TR CR5s, what more can I say

Actually, for the most part, command chat has folks honestly debating the ins/outs or attack or defense. For the most part, everyone comes to an agreement before anyone globals. I say for the most part, because during the times I play (usually late night/early morning EST), this is true. I have seen other times of day (prime time and weekends) full of all kinds of crap. From CR5s who are truely children (how anyone would squad with them long enough for them to earn cr5 is a mystery), to arrogant asshats that are full of themselves, yes, we have a lot of problems, but no more than anywhere else (ours are just more noticable).

However, there is no mystery as to how calls are made (at least the ones I have participated in), we simply look at the map, check populations, see who is fighting where, then make a judgement call to keep the offensive alive, or keep a few continents defended (so we don't end up in sanctuary). So far, I it's worked pretty well. But then again, these are the off-hours, while the kids and other idiots are asleep.

I really don't think that it's CR5s, or 4s or any one class of folks that are to blame for anything. Sure we have our share of idiots and folks with the attention span of a hyperactive 5 year-old, however this is the structure that the devs built into the game. It is all we have to work with. I would say, that if your not satisfied with the way the war is going, get to CR5 yourself and fix the problem. No, it's not easy, but it is possible.

Oh, and one note to my other emerald TR CR5s (and this is too just a very, very few of you, and probably wasted here, since most are probably functionally illiterate): If you jump in-game and start global/contall your directions, without consulting anyone, then quickly leave once the fecal matter hits the rotating blade, then please do us all a favor and just STFU, forever. kthksbye.
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Old 2004-08-09, 07:35 AM   [Ignore Me] #43
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Agree with kaisan. The late night and up till early morning folks usually do well. Thats where we gain the bases that the early morning cr5's lose. Almost every time we've been forced back to sanc it was around 8-10 am/ eastern time for me
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