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Old 2004-08-06, 02:51 PM   [Ignore Me] #1
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The Terran Republic's CR5 Humility...


Now I know I am only a lowly CR2.4, but I am going to blunt here, since the majority or CR5's don't comprehend the problem behind most engagements on the Emerald server. DEDICATED TR-supporters will also know what I am talking about.

Today I decided that I would make some trouble for the Vanu, so I started attacking their continent of Solsar. For a few minutes I thought we'd be kicked, but the response was unexpected and also beneficial to the TR. Then Ceryshen came under attack so some left, yet we had managed to cripple Seth and hack it with the use of our Continent-Lock. More forces joined us and supported the engagement.

Then, almost an hour after we had been on the cont... some CR5's who also have characters or squads on other empires told us to rally for an attack on Hossin, knowing full well what we wre doing on Solsar. These continuous distractions progressed until we were finally kicked from Solsar, and, the attack immediately on orders of these same CR5s changed to Forseral.

Coincedence? I don't think so. The Chain-of-Command is a serious shambles for most players who like being TR.

Now we at the CDL have a different perspective. On the Emerald server we are only one empire... THE TERRAN REPUBLIC! I know this is only a game, and I know that newbies want to see what the difference between these empires are in terms of weaponry, but this must end now. CR5s are designed to review the world, see the status on continents under siege and then bolster and take charge of these assaults that are appearing worthwhile to continue, and that have been entrenched... not those that are under attack, simply to get their primary-playing empires out of danger.

Devs should enable players three months per-server to review the tech, then force them to choose a side, or you have no business being on the side of the Terran Republic.
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Old 2004-08-06, 03:22 PM   [Ignore Me] #2
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Old 2004-08-06, 03:34 PM   [Ignore Me] #3
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Look, hynch... an attack on solsar was NOT going to work in the least. The VS had just gotten done with a large battle against the NC in the south of solsar. This means there are already a bunch of vanu on said continent just looking for more people to shoot at. To take a continent these days, you have to be able to get a foothold. Seth is NOT a good foothold. I know you like to think there's some conspiracy to defeat the TR from within, but aoshi is a smart player... he knows what he's doing. Just because the continent that you are attacking isn't marked as primary, that doesn't mean they're trying to make the TR fail.
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Old 2004-08-06, 04:56 PM   [Ignore Me] #4
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I�m going to be rather harsh here because this type of post annoys me. The low down is that you have a game play preference that suits your personal style and you are making excuses to try and justify your choice and legitimize it by blasting others with unfounded accusations.

You prefer one empire per server? Then fine, you play that way and form an outfit of like minded players. But, don�t try and rationalize your position by blasting others that enjoy the variety playing other empires offers. Since all you can do is offer speculation as to things you perceive as problems your posts are nothing more than idealistic propaganda. Keep your opinions to yourself unless you have hard evidence or proof.

Every single multi-empire player I know does not waste time engaging in spying, sabotage, misdirection, or any other lame espionage or clandestine betrayal type activity. Players want to win no matter what team they are on. They want to level their characters, they want to capture bases for CEP, and they want to up their kill counts and improve their proficiency with different empire specific vehicles and weapons.

With the last round of changes for empire incentives it�s obvious the DEV team intends players to play multiple empires and switch sides to help balance the teams numerically. IMHO the goofy �loyalist� notion is only playing one team regardless of the numbers is folly. What happens if you get enough knuckleheads chanting loyalty slogans on the empire with a huge population advantage? There is no honor in stacking teams. Join the team that needs help and do the best you can to create a good and fair fight. You know, like in any good FPS game. And don�t be fooled, just because PS is more than just a standard cut and dry FPS does not mean you can ignore normal FPS etiquette just to suit your loyalist preferences.

One thing that amuses me is the rampant paranoia amongst the �loyalists� after the merger. Morons and bored players have always TKed, blown spawn tubes, blown generators, taken out vehicle pads, issued moronic CR5 Global Commands, etc. Now after the merger these player types got an instant label change from �morons� and �idiots� to �Spies!� and �Traitors!�. This is just flat out paranoia. Besides any �real� spy would not waste time with a 12 hour timer they would just either buy a second account (not much especially if you have a few outfit members willing to chip in a couple of bucks to maintain the �spy� account) or use a series of trial accounts so in no way could any dastardly deed be tracked back to you and your main account. The merger and subsequent multi-empire capabilities did not introduce anything that was previously not possible beforehand.

As someone on the OF mentioned (I�m too lazy to look up who actually said it for proper recognition) but you loyalists need �to wake up and smell the FPS game you are playing�. Meaning simply that there is no war and there are not 3 empires. Got it? It�s a game and there are three teams. The �enemy� is nothing more than a like-minded group of players who happen to wear different uniforms. We are not fighting over different ideologies. We are competing in a game for fun. So play for the team that needs help or that offers the variety that will keep you playing the game and having fun. I don�t want to see players leave out of boredom and I don�t want players to leave because they are constantly facing 2 to 1 odds. I swear the next time I hear a moronic argument like �But I�m a freedom fighter and could never play anything but NC� I�m going to vomit - being gagged by pure stupidity.
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Old 2004-08-06, 05:10 PM   [Ignore Me] #5
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I don't really mind people playing on different empires (I do it on Markov but I rarely play over there anyway), I just accept it. It's when they do it just because they're not winning that annoys me.
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Old 2004-08-06, 09:02 PM   [Ignore Me] #6
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I have characters on all servers of multiple empires and i see a big problem with tr emerald where i play most. The cr5's always do this to us. we have some 60-65 percent of pop on a continent, taking bases at a decent rate when were half through, here goes the global saying go defend a cont thets being zerged by full force.half our people leave, and all of a sudden, were at 35% losing everything, plus we lose against the zerg we was sent to defend. Happens everyay, i log on at 7am and we have 3 conts, around 10, we have 1 cont, cause of same senario.

I say not to challenge a zerg when your doing good on another cont, kinda trade, especially when we have 28% global pops. If we defend all the time, we get nowhere. apparently the late night crews have better theories since they obtained the 3 conts we had when i logged on
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Old 2004-08-06, 11:56 PM   [Ignore Me] #7
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Ok, I've been a true and through TR-E player since I BOUGHT this game. The CR5's ARE screwing this up. Sorry Cyrus, but you're wrong. The CR5's are being rather stupid. If we are WINNING on a continent, then don't recall. That is stupid. It puts TR in a continuous state of defence and losing.


And seth, for your information, is and EXCELLENT foot hold. It is impossible to foot zerg. It is a Tech Plant. It is DAMN close to a warp gate (offering close gal support) AND the nature of the surrounding terrain makes is a BITCH to get to by tank. The only really GOOD way in is by gal and if you don't drop about three or four gals on that base when it is zerged, yer screw'd. as in 'won't even get in the door' screw'd.

SO: learn what yer talking about before ya talk. The TR-E CR5's have a history of being stupid. There are some good ones, but the majority are stupid, and spam their stupidity. This Stupid Spam makes it hard to follow the good leaders. The stupid CR5's are makeing us lose w/ thier constant calls to fall back...who ever won a war by falling back?
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Old 2004-08-07, 12:05 AM   [Ignore Me] #8
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Most CR5s are incapable of doing anything other than ushering forces from smaller battles to one big battle. That's what they are, ushers. They don't really care that a battle is winning, losing, or in a deadlock. They will just yell out "Get off Continent A, we need you on Continent B."

I've seen a CR5 take forces from the LARGER NC battle and then push it for a smaller battle. Happened to me. We were pushing the Vanu off the continent while holding back the TR. However, loudmouth starts yammering and we lose like 10% of our population, turning the tide against the Vanu.

Ironically, the continent I was on had the larger population.
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Old 2004-08-07, 12:08 AM   [Ignore Me] #9
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Originally Posted by Cauldron Borne
Ok, I've been a true and through TR-E player since I BOUGHT this game. The CR5's ARE screwing this up. Sorry Cyrus, but you're wrong. The CR5's are being rather stupid. If we are WINNING on a continent, then don't recall. That is stupid. It puts TR in a continuous state of defence and losing.


And seth, for your information, is and EXCELLENT foot hold. It is impossible to foot zerg. It is a Tech Plant. It is DAMN close to a warp gate (offering close gal support) AND the nature of the surrounding terrain makes is a BITCH to get to by tank. The only really GOOD way in is by gal and if you don't drop about three or four gals on that base when it is zerged, yer screw'd. as in 'won't even get in the door' screw'd.

SO: learn what yer talking about before ya talk. The TR-E CR5's have a history of being stupid. There are some good ones, but the majority are stupid, and spam their stupidity. This Stupid Spam makes it hard to follow the good leaders. The stupid CR5's are makeing us lose w/ thier constant calls to fall back...who ever won a war by falling back?
You actually expect to win a continent that, at the point of invasion, you only have, AT THE HIGHEST POINT, 20% of the pop? Because that's how it was at Seth. I was with hyncharas through most of that assault.. it was NOT going to work. DO NOT assume to tell me what I do not know.
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Old 2004-08-07, 12:51 AM   [Ignore Me] #10
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Oh shut your hole. Cauldron and Hycharus are talking about things they know.

I have seen it too. I've seen NC troops that used to be primarily or completely TR CR5s see what direction we were going in, and log in as TR to global and have us go someplace completely fucking stupid. That costed us the battle and the war on that continent.

So while you two innocent, sheltered fools might believe it doesn't happen, that doesn't mean it doesn't happen. Pull your heads out of the sand, ostriches.

I used to close my eyes at night when I was a kid, thinking that the monsters under the bed wouldn't get me if I couldn't see them.
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Old 2004-08-07, 01:05 AM   [Ignore Me] #11
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Me + a full platoon of un organized SANC TRASH held Seth from an ENTIRE VS zerg for an hour. We then got support and took the cont.....started out with 13% pop. When I loged an hour later w had the whole northern hemisphere and the pop was 55/45 with us at 45...

we were outnumbered....we won....using YOUR (Cyrus) logic we should have lost..... hmmm...... I bet you play NC normally, huh?


*EDIT: I agree with BadAsh's statement. I don't play TR because of the Ideology, but all the same we do seem to be cursed with an unusually high number of idiots in the leadership position...
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Old 2004-08-07, 01:35 AM   [Ignore Me] #12
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Maybe you missed the statistics course in high school... but there is a very big difference between 20% and 45%.
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Old 2004-08-07, 02:08 AM   [Ignore Me] #13
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I hate posts like this...

I am a TR CR 5, I DO NOT play any other sides, and if I did, I wouldn't be spying and telling otehrs whats going on. I am just going to say the truth about the situation. There is no way EVER that TR would of taken Solsar, yea, we may take Seth but that is the only one we will ever get. We call those people off because we know this before the TR zerg like yourself does. I am not in any way saying that CDL sux because i love Hamma and Mars and they do a good job at what they do. If you guys would just listen to us just sometimes, I would be happy. If we had full 100% listeners and loyal TR for one day, we might just be able to win a few continents. And with that, I am not saying that every CR 5 is is amazing and the best, some are retarded and know nothing about CR 5 but that fancy backpack.

Just try for a day or two to do exactly what CR 5's try and get the TR to do, maybe you'll be suprised.
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Old 2004-08-07, 02:54 AM   [Ignore Me] #14
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I wouldn't go so far as to say 'as the CR5's say'... interject a little 'as a select group of the cr5's say' and I'll agree. Some of you really are morons =P. But no.. the zerg needs to wake the fuck up and pay attention to what the world map looks like. Attacking solsar from the north rarely works when there ISN'T ANYONE ON TEH CONTINENT TO DEFEND RIGHT OFF. This time, however, there were a ton of VS just looking for more people to shoot down by Amun.
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Old 2004-08-07, 05:29 AM   [Ignore Me] #15
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hear hear hyncharas. If you want to play a different empire you should have to play on a different server.
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