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Old 2003-04-23, 12:13 PM   [Ignore Me] #1
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Maxes over powered? My story of ownage.


Ok, i made a vanu character on one of the servers last night and i decided to try out the Max units. I picked the Comet loadout because in VR it seemed pretty strong. Well, i started to go around visiting as many continents as i could to get the BEP from them. I instant actioned myself into the middle of solsar where one of our bases was under attack from the NC. So i loaded up with ammo and went outside by myself (haven't found a squad yet). Anyway, I spot this sqad of 5 or so NC guys coming towards the base. I jumped down off the balcony and ran behind a large pile of bolders waiting to ambush their sorry NC asses thinking that i would probably take down 2 or 3 before getting killed. Well when they got close enough I jumped over the rocks and started pumeling them with my plasma weapon. I killed all 5 of them without dying. It was disgustingly easy. Now i don't know if these guys just sucked or if i'm just a natural but it sure seemed easy for me to mop them up with the AV max. Now if I was piloting an AI max i could understand this. But the comet is definately not AI, yet it still manages to kill infantry in 3 shots or less. It just seemed a bit over powered to me.
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Old 2003-04-23, 12:16 PM   [Ignore Me] #2
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I dunno. What kind of weapons were they packing? Were they even using AP rounds on you? If you were trying to assault a guy that had a striker or something outdoors, that would have been a different scenario because the guy you were fighting has a weapon specifically designed to kick a MAX in the beanbag.
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Old 2003-04-23, 12:20 PM   [Ignore Me] #3
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If you use the squad-based tactics that PS encourages, with a mixed force of AP-round standard infantry, and AV guys, lone MAX are no problem.
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Old 2003-04-23, 12:23 PM   [Ignore Me] #4
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I'm not sure what kind of ammo they were using but atleast 1 of them had a rocket launcher of some kind. Not sure if it was a striker or punisher. He got ontop of a rock and crouched. Then i pumped 3 plasma rounds into him at short range and he died instantly. What i'm saying is that the Comet is AV and its gun should not kill infantry in three lousy shots.

Come to think of it they might have been using AP cause i did take quite a bit of health damage before my armor was really hurting. But i was carrying 2 med kits and they fixed it up quick.
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Old 2003-04-23, 12:34 PM   [Ignore Me] #5
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Well, VS max are mainly the reason I carry a striker, but I look for MAX to kill outside with that thing because it's so effective. Inside is another story.
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Old 2003-04-23, 12:36 PM   [Ignore Me] #6
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Of coarse your not recognizing that you also had surprise on your side. Ambushing is fun in this game if you can pull it off successfully.

Im sure you being in a MAX jumping over a rock, made a lot of the guys in the other squad piss their pants. Most people who get jumped like this, dont think about what ammo/gun they are using, they just start firing and usually miss because they got so frightened.

I would guess that you killed most with the scatter affect of your weapon and not by direct shots. Lets face it, shooting from the air is not the most accurate thing, but AV MAX on all sides has a good scatter effect from thier weapons, i.e. you dont have to hit the targets dead on, just somewhere near them to give 'soft' targets real damage.

Infantry in the open against a MAX, 9x outta 10 results in dead infantry.

However I do think the VS MAX is the uberest of all MAXs in the game. All things being equal, it takes two TR MAXs to take out one VS MAX. The VS MAX can use its special ability (jump jets) and still fire weapons. The TR MAX loses firing ability for about 5sec while locking itself down and once locked becomes a sitting target... it suxxors.

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Old 2003-04-23, 12:49 PM   [Ignore Me] #7
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Old 2003-04-23, 01:00 PM   [Ignore Me] #8
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good i am glad you killed some NC, but well a AV weapon is supposed to be very strong, take a M1 abram for example, the main gun is a what i think a 80mm gun, used for tanks, could you imagin lowering the barrel on a few troops in the open, it would be 1 sided, so i think what happend was exactly the right way, plus you had jump jets, and surprise and i'll admits if i was in agile armor with a regualr VS rifle, i would crap myself shot in you "genrale dicertion" and forget about AP rounds or a punisher, i woudl be to scraed or not have the time.
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Old 2003-04-23, 01:11 PM   [Ignore Me] #9
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Well me being Fanboi of Vs have to admit, that killing infantery and maxes with VS maxes is hella easy.

Had AI configuration, and once the TR max locked down i jumped over it and killed it with AP rounds. Had 1/2 of my health. I think mobility is the key. And once, i had AV config, i ambushed 2 Tr maxed, and killed them with little to no losts on armor. Same goes for 3 NC maxes. Had support from one trasher, but almost single killed them. I dont want to show off, its just that i found it merely easy to kill them, even with my "skill" .

On the other hand I would be afraid, if i met them in the base, because my mobility-advance would disappear.
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Old 2003-04-23, 01:12 PM   [Ignore Me] #10
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VS is the new overpowered Empire. Used to be NC, then they nerfed the gauss and left the jackhammer as a steaming pile while at the same time upping pretty much everything Vanu has. Not that I really care all that much, they're still killable /shrug
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