Disturbing Lodestar Info - Page 2

1024 · 2003-06-23, 12:39 AM

Even if it can carry deliverers, you wont be able to hot drop onto roof with it. I think they should jsut eliminate the ability to hotdrop anythign from teh LS at all. IT must land to deply any thing or load anyhting.

Doppler · 2003-06-23, 12:52 AM

I really dont care what the lodestar can carry as long as it cannot hotdrop. I used to think that the AMS carrying thing whould dramaticly affect the battlefield but so long as it has to find a relatively large clear landing spot I think all the planes/AA maxs/skyguards will provide a worthy deterent and keep the bridge from becoming obsolete.

Kaikou · 2003-06-23, 01:28 AM

the lodestar is probably not gonna be able to carry a sunderer....

BigDickMccoy · 2003-06-23, 04:45 AM

No hotdrops, or pull its Afterburners.....otherwise this thing will be a killing machine.

Smaug · 2003-06-23, 05:50 AM

Seriously you guys are highly overestimating this vehicle. No afterburners!? are you crazy? This thing would die in like 5 seconds if it went over a populated TR base. Striker hell. Plus hotdropping isn't that big of an issue, sure it gets you into combat a little faster, but that depends where you are dropping. If you expect to hotdrop over a base in a vech and not take some damage you are probably wrong. Only rarely will you land not hitting a bridge or wall. The only safe way to drop over a base is to completely stop so that you are certain there will be no lateral movement, and your aim to be perfect, and when you stop you will be pounded by missles. Therefor you wouldn't be dropping lots, over highly populated bases. So in effect you would mostly be hotdropping in treeless areas where the lodestar would be able to land in itself. Not entirely close to bases. Besides, gals can hotdrop, they can't hotdrop sunderers but they can drop enforcers and the like, I'm sure an experienced marauder crew would get considerably more kills than a sunderer dropping into a base. Hamma said that it would most likely be able to carry one vehicle, thats 0 more than the gal, so its not going to be 'raining magmowers!' unless you have 50 lodestars .....

beavis88 · 2003-06-23, 09:03 AM

This thing would die in like 5 seconds if it went over a populated TR base. Striker hell

Repeat after me:

Thou shalt not fly over TR bases and not expect to get hot missiles up thy ass, in large quantities.

If the NCs didn't get such a chubby off hiding behind hills and trying to snipe infantry with the phoenix, it probably wouldn't be advisable to fly over NC bases either.

Do whatever you want over VS bases

As long as the Lodestar can't hotdrop (as many have said), and it's HUGE, who gives a shit if it can carry a sunderer? There are already only about 3 places on each continent a galaxy can legitimately land, the lodestar is going to be a total nightmare to land

SmilingBandit · 2003-06-23, 10:08 AM

The devs would have to fix the landing system were they to insist on landing the Lodestar in order to deliver it's cargo. There's little more frustrating than finding a nice, open, patch of land and seeing it's an invalid landing spot.

Jarlo · 2003-06-23, 11:04 AM

It wont replace gal because hotdropping a sunderer on top of a tower is not nearly as effective as hotdropping 10+ troopers.

Happy lil Elf · 2003-06-23, 11:06 AM

If the NCs didn't get such a chubby off hiding behind hills and trying to snipe infantry with the phoenix, it probably wouldn't be advisable to fly over NC bases either.

You'd think people would have gotten tired of this whine in Beta, especially since it's been proven over and over again that it takes forever to kill a reinforced with a Phoenix.
Wierd.

Smaug · 2003-06-23, 01:20 PM

Yes nearly 6 shots to kill an exo in my tests with pheonix. What about the lancer? Oh maybe 2 or 3.... gah and that thing reloads so damn slow.

Airlift · 2003-06-23, 01:36 PM

I think yanking Hot Drop from these things would be fine. Hell, the main reason I want one is so I can put a Deliverer in there and relive the deployment scene from Aliens.

"We're on an express elevator to Hell, going down!"

beavis88 · 2003-06-23, 01:43 PM

You'd think people would have gotten tired of this whine in Beta, especially since it's been proven over and over again that it takes forever to kill a reinforced with a Phoenix.

That wasn't a whine -- I'm actually pleased that most people with Phoenix certs seem to use them so stupidly. It makes my playtime as a TR quite a bit easier. The downside is it makes the Striker look like some sort of uber cannon of death, since most Striker users seem to actually have some sort of understanding as to how they were designed to work.

Jarlo · 2003-06-23, 05:01 PM

Per smokejumper the lodestar will carry the SUnderer..

Listen to the interview at 38:45, he says it there.

Nitsch · 2003-06-23, 05:30 PM

If it does carry a sunderer... it's still not as good as hotdropping out of a gal.

In a gal each person decides where to drop and whamo...they are in the action. If you hotdrop a sunderer... everyone must go at the same time (if they don't get blown to shreads by landing on mines or AV weapons) and could die at the same time. THEN they all have to disembark from the sunderer... that is an extra step.

So you hotdrop your sunderer (could get shot to hell or flipped upsidedown), then wait a few seconds for everyone to get out... all the while the guys who dropped out of the galaxy have killed 10 people.

SweetTater · 2003-06-23, 06:33 PM

Imagine your out fighting your enemies and then you suddenly see a shadow overhead. You look up and a Sunderer falls on you.

Screw the Liberator, bomb them with buses!