grrrr

[knifeman2005]

Should we tone done the VS

[Peacemaker]

This isnt the OF man. Just because you got owned by the VS does not mean they need to be nerfed. From what ive herd they are now on par with the other two empires. Adjust your tactics and you may win.

[Ghost06]

Yep. All three empires are on par, give some take some, with an exception to anti-vehicle. Phoenix is just ridiculously lame.

[00AgentDuck]

Yeah I think all three empires are good now. You might be new to this. Back in may I got this the day it came out for retail and back then the VS where needed on every server. We would get overwhelmed. Awhile ago the VS poplutation went up greatly because of the lasher update but now it seems like it's going back down again. I played tr one day when the vs pop was high and we got overwhelmed by the vs. They where everywhere you looked. If you shot randomly you would most lilky hit one of them there where so many.

Every empire has there on speicalty. You may also be fighting the vs more often then the nc, or maybe when you fight the vs you happened to be fighting more skilled of players. I don't think they need toned down, I think all three empires are good.

[Lonehunter]

Originally posted by Ghost06
Yep. All three empires are on par, give some take some, with an exception to anti-vehicle. Phoenix is just ridiculously lame.

Why do you think this?

[Everay]

umm the pheonix isnt fire and forget, and i know that the striker dosent always hit the target, but with the pheonix you gotta guide it all the way there, exposing yourself, also i dont think it has the range as the striker, as for damage, i think the pheonix is stronger, but not by much, they both take down maxs in 3 hits right? the striker mabey 4, but in the time you can fire 4 rockets, a pheonix can have fired only 1 or 2

[Lonehunter]

Striker = Aircraft
Pheonix = Ground vehicles

[Ghost06]

The Phoenix takes 8 seconds (around there, I don't know the exact numbers) to reload after every shot, and is capable of 250 damage to armor per shot, and often misses due to A) human error and B) MAX or Vehicle running or taking cover while you reload. Yah, so what, it can shoot from cover, but not very far. 6 second flight time, don't forget. The striker however, holds 600 damage in one clip, and all of'em will usually hit. The only time I've ever hit a flyer when I used AV is when the bastard was hovering still, and he still often saw it coming and dodged.

I fail to see the reasoning in why it takes 3 phoenix users to do the same job effeciently as 1 striker, or 2 Lancer users.

This is why I say "The NC has an AV cert?! No way?! I thought it was called Special Assualt..."

All the NC can do in terms of infantry AV is pretty much a combonation of surge and a decimator. Then we get the NC surginh newb thing...