Jackhammer

[Acaila]

I've always used surge how I thought it was meant to be used. Attack with a JH, flick on surge and make a get away for healing/repairs, go back and attack. I use it for rapid retreating and find my kill/death ratio is alot better than just surging into combat on what usually amounts to a suicide run. Then again, my aim isn't that great and moving quickly affects me negatively .

[NoSurrender]

yea i know ive seen fellow outfit mates kill whole squads but it was a kamakazi firing run... The MCG and Lasher are very good they just take ALOT more skill... i dont use HA but i might get it because i cant compete with the people who have it...

Originally Posted by Rbstr

ok the fact is that if you are ever outdoors with a JH you will be owned so teribly

Obviously a shotgun isn't going to do too great at range.

ghost

[Happy lil Elf]

We all know the Jackhammer is the best Heavy Assault weapon, so stop denying it!

At extremely close range? Yeah, it's a shotgun. Of course maybe it should suck at close range and then as you pointed out it could do poor at ranged combat too. Then it could suck all around and you'd be happy, right?

[Spee]

Originally Posted by Happy lil' Elf

Then it could suck all around and you'd be happy, right?

Or better yet, turn our HA into a giant vacuum.


Then it would suck all day long, and you cant bitch. Nyah.

</Bitter>

[Kikinchikin]

touche spee...

na i played NC on werner today. Turns out i got owned by a TR with an MCG once. Basically I thought it was damn easy to use before. We'll call that a 10. Now i think its an 8. U have to sorta aim, but still much easier than the MCG.

[Incompetent]

The problem with the Jack isn't that it can own up close, i can put up with that, the problem is that it can move so damn fast that it's impossible to keep them away. They need to either neft surge in combination with Heavy Assault (you run 20% slower with a HA weapon equipped and surge only gets you back to your regular speed), or just nerf surge in general. (don't move as fast, takes more stamina, much worse accuracy, ect.) Nerfing HA in combination with lighter armors could be another option (make some excuse as to much recoil.)

As it stands you can barely hit the fuckers when they're zipping around in there agile armor and by the time you've managed to do any respectable amount of damage they're in OHK range of you, especially since they can spray you with fire while closing and take barely any noticable COF or speed penalty. It's not really a problem that is confined to the Jack, but the Jack just magnifies it to the point where it gets really stupid, and yes, this is a shameless idea theft.

[FliggenMan]

I personally think that the range n the JH is too much, because the sweeper is the same type of gun with much less range. You should really have to be right next to some1 with the jack hammer to get it to be effective.

[Veteran]

Yah, Surge is borked in concept and in implementation. Nothing should so blatantly disadvantage a person who may be lagging.

I have high speed DSL and a good computer. When I Surge around people who look like they're lagging, I can just tell I'm jumping around like crazy on their screen, and I feel like I've somehow failed to show good sportsmanship. If they removed Surge I wouldn't complain one iota.

Originally Posted by Happy lil' Elf

At extremely close range? Yeah, it's a shotgun. Of course maybe it should suck at close range and then as you pointed out it could do poor at ranged combat too. Then it could suck all around and you'd be happy, right?

Did I ever once complain that the Jackhammer can kill Reinforced with a single shot or say that it should be nerfed? Nope, I use the damn gun! You and I both know Heavy Assault is suppossed to dominate at close range....so the whole arguement about larger rage is irrelevant, because any Medium Assault marksman should be able to take out a player foolish enough to try and snipe with an MCG or a Lasher.

Again, I'll restate my opinion. The Jackhammer is thee best Heavy Assault weapon in Planetside. I remember when people used to post their thoughts here and it would actually inspire some discussion about tactics. I guess most people are too worried about what gun is getting the next nerf and enter defense mode, filtering out all other logical ideas that come to mind in the process.

ghost

[1024]

God people, don't sweat teh small stuff.

Can't beat a guy in jackhammer outdoors?
Get a reaver!

Indoors?
Get a MAX!

if you flame me you're gay(immature i know, but im bored and want to read intriguing[sp?] replies)