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View Poll Results: Which Star Wars is best?
#1 The Phantom Menace 4 8.00%
#2 Attack of the Clones 5 10.00%
#3 Not out yet, but Lucas can do no wrong. 4 8.00%
#4 A New Hope 4 8.00%
#5 The Empire Strikes Back 21 42.00%
#6 Return of the Jedi 12 24.00%
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Old 2004-03-05, 10:40 AM   [Ignore Me] #31
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Old 2004-03-05, 06:33 PM   [Ignore Me] #32
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Originally Posted by Happy lil' Elf
Vader/Skywalker duels were pathetic compared to both of the climactic duels from the prequels.
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Um its a first of its kind back then, you think they had computer animation back then.....well they did, but not good.


Why does the first Matrix pwn the other two? It was first of its kind. You already know what kinda moves they are going to pull in the other two.


Sayin Ep 1-2 is awsomer than the originals back in the 70s (right?) because of the fight scenes, in my book, doesn't count.
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Old 2004-03-05, 06:46 PM   [Ignore Me] #33
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Return of the Jedi by far
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Old 2004-03-05, 08:46 PM   [Ignore Me] #34
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Originally Posted by BUGGER

Um its a first of its kind back then, you think they had computer animation back then.....well they did, but not good.

watch a few old black and white samurai movies, like the 7 samurai, or something of that such, the fight scenes were good

but then again, i liked the original star was saber duels.
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Old 2004-03-05, 10:24 PM   [Ignore Me] #35
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Originally Posted by BUGGER
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Um its a first of its kind back then, you think they had computer animation back then.....well they did, but not good.


Why does the first Matrix pwn the other two? It was first of its kind. You already know what kinda moves they are going to pull in the other two.


Sayin Ep 1-2 is awsomer than the originals back in the 70s (right?) because of the fight scenes, in my book, doesn't count.

Bugger, they didn't pull the moves in the orginals they pulled in the prequels because they couldn't (or maybe just didn't know how yet), so your Matrix analogy doesn't really work. I do agree that there was more of a "wow" factor in watching the original Matrix but the second and third installments did have some better action scenes. However it's just like you were getting at, they weren't as impressive because they didn't go very far past what the original Matrix had. Now when you're talking Star Wars not only did they have some more interesting action sequences in the prequels, there had been monumental improvments in special effects and the techniques used so they were able to go far beyond what the original trilogy was able to do.

This isn't saying the action in those movies wasn't astounding for their time. The reality is that Lucas made leaps in the field of special effects with those movies. Does that mean that the sequences from the original three movies should be considered better than those of the prequels simply because they were unbeliveably great for 20 years ago compared to the prequels which were only great by todays standards? No, of course not, because they aren't better. The best f/x from 20 years ago doesn't compare with something that's even moderatly well done today. The same is true for many things.

I never said the prequels are "awsomer" than the originals. What I said was: For plot and acting I'll take the originals. For action sequences, the prequels have far outdone the original three. What it boils down to imo is what do you enjoy more, the plotline or the ass-kicking.

For me, I enjoy both, so I enjoy watching all of them.
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Old 2004-03-05, 11:38 PM   [Ignore Me] #36
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In Jedi it became almost cartoonish. I mean, the Stormtroopers went from being incredbile soldiers to morons who couldn't shoot straight. The Ewoks and 5 or 6 rebels fought and beat a whole platoon or two of stormtroopers. What the fuck? Credibility was lost.
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Old 2004-03-06, 12:02 AM   [Ignore Me] #37
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I think that was after Lucas either a) went mad or b) burned himself out hardcore on drugs.

The rape of ep. 4,5 and 6 with his new "additions" is what may earn him a trip to director's hell.

Greedo shooting first is one of the weakest things I've ever seen in a movie.
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