News: Bolt Driver - Page 14

Redshift · 2012-02-13, 11:15 AM

Originally Posted by xSlideShow

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again though that situation favours a slower weapon, if the sniper hasn't been found then the first shot is essentially a guarenteed hit, more front loaded dmg means more likely to get a kill.
We saw it in PS1, you hit targets with less than 70 hp if you can, or if they're in a fight you let them take a little dmg then shoot them. Can't do that with faster weaker weapons.
You'll also find yourself getting instgibbed by slower snipers, happened loads in PS1 two snipers pick the sanme target and splat, happened by accident easily enough with TS is was childsplay, again something that doesn't work with the HSR.

xSlideShow · 2012-02-13, 11:18 AM

Originally Posted by Redshift

again though that situation favours a slower weapon, if the sniper hasn't been found then the first shot is essentially a guarenteed hit, more front loaded dmg means more likely to get a kill.
We saw it in PS1, you hit targets with less than 70 hp if you can, or if they're in a fight you let them take a little dmg then shoot them. Can't do that with faster weaker weapons.

In a sniper duel I can see it favoring a bigger weapon if there is nothing such as in planetside 1 where you shot the sniper and it fucked up his CoF. So the HSR did great at killing other snipers.

Originally Posted by Redshift

You'll also find yourself getting instgibbed by slower snipers, happened loads in PS1 two snipers pick the sanme target and splat, happened by accident easily enough with TS is was childsplay, again something that doesn't work with the HSR.

In a group situation I would think it would be better to use both variants. Faster fire rate means you don't have to spend as much time setting up the shots. So you could just shoot down range and hit the guy you see him hit while hitting your own target.

I really think it will be down more to play style than which sniper is the best at sniping. Even if it's not, it's not because it's imbalance-able, it's because the devs failed to balance it.

DOUBLEXBAUGH · 2012-02-13, 11:19 AM

I highly doubt they would make the TR sniper as bad as the HSR.

xSlideShow · 2012-02-13, 11:24 AM

Originally Posted by DOUBLEXBAUGH

I highly doubt they would make the TR sniper as bad as the HSR.

The gun I described is not the HSR. It is the current Bolt driver with the HSR fire rate, or very similar to. Speculation though, of an extreme.

Redshift · 2012-02-13, 11:30 AM

Originally Posted by xSlideShow

It is the current Bolt driver with the HSR fire rate, or very similar to.

If that's what you mean then thats even more unbalanced, cept this way TR come out on top :P

xSlideShow · 2012-02-13, 11:34 AM

Originally Posted by Redshift

If that's what you mean then thats even more unbalanced, cept this way TR come out on top :P

lol, the NC weapon is going to shoot like 10-20% slower, that's not that much of a difference. If you play MW3 I was thinking the NC gun would have to at least be close to that fire rate.

I'm wondering if Snipers are going to be 1 shotting each other all day though.

Redshift · 2012-02-13, 11:38 AM

Originally Posted by xSlideShow

lol, the NC weapon is going to shoot like 10-20% slower, that's not that much of a difference. If you play MW3 I was thinking the NC gun would have to at least be close to that fire rate.

I'm wondering if Snipers are going to be 1 shotting each other all day though.

doubt it, they have active cammo, it'll be a pain to distinguish the head let alone hit it, killing snipers will be up to cloakers again i bet

Rbstr · 2012-02-13, 11:39 AM

Originally Posted by xSlideShow

I'm wondering if Snipers are going to be 1 shotting each other all day though.

Well that doesn't happen in games like BF3, why would it happen in planetside? A head shot at appreciable distance when you've got bullet drop and scope sway is pretty difficult.

I'm kind of assuming PS2 will implement some sort of mechanic so that guns aren't simply laser beams that hit dead center period...I don't think that's an unreasonable assumption.

xSlideShow · 2012-02-13, 11:40 AM

Originally Posted by Rbstr

Well that doesn't happen in games like BF3, why would it happen in planetside? A head shot at appreciable distance when you've got bullet drop and scope sway is pretty difficult.

They are infiltrators and in PS1 you can 1 shot an infiltrator. So kill times = faster I would still think they could 1 shot infiltrator? I mean we haven't heard otherwise.

Originally Posted by Redshift

doubt it, they have active cammo, it'll be a pain to distinguish the head let alone hit it, killing snipers will be up to cloakers again i bet

Yeah, I was thinking they'd get owned by Infils and vehicles.

xSlideShow · 2012-02-13, 11:41 AM

Double Post... QQ

Raka Maru · 2012-02-13, 12:50 PM

HSR wasn't bad and could make a good sniper rifle if given more up front damage.

OTOH, would rather see sniper rifles as NS, than ES, but will await judgement after beta.

Rbstr · 2012-02-13, 12:52 PM

Originally Posted by xSlideShow

They are infiltrators and in PS1 you can 1 shot an infiltrator. So kill times = faster I would still think they could 1 shot infiltrator? I mean we haven't heard otherwise.

You're ignoring the fact the PS1 infils couldn't carry rifles, so the class comparison doesn't fit very well.

Oh...and hitboxes.

Graywolves · 2012-02-13, 03:26 PM

Eventually they're going to give all the sniper rifles the ability to have the same capability.

People will complain wether it's balanced or not at some point.

ShockNC · 2012-02-13, 11:09 PM

Originally Posted by Graywolves

People will complain wether it's balanced or not at some point.

I have a feeling that the Sniper Rifles will become the new Lasher.

TR will whine that they need a buff for their rifle and the Devs up the damage.

the NC will whine about the TR basically have their rifle only with more Ammo and the Devs will nerf the TR rifle/buff the NC.

The VS will tell everyone that they've been having to deal with having the Lancer and everyone should STFU and deal with it.

Redshift · 2012-02-14, 05:53 AM

Originally Posted by ShockNC

The VS will tell everyone that they've been having to deal with having the Lancer and everyone should STFU and deal with it.

The lancer was awesome..... especially when it was the lancer sniper, you should crap yourself with excitement if they gave you that