News: Resolved - PS2 Region - Page 16

NewSith · 2012-02-21, 07:02 PM

Okay, I have a question... Why do we need such an innovation?

Let me highlight the keyword:
Why do WE need such an innovation?

I mean, profit for you, sure, but are you really gonna go the EA Games way now? I mean it's for us, customers, the game is designed for. Negative feedback definetely here outweighs postive (if there is any), so why are you still thinking? Even more, - why did you come up with something like that in the first place?

It's not about the ability for Euros to play on the American servers, nor it's about some people being 3rd-rate. It's about the ability to, no wrong, about the HUMAN RIGHT to selfcultivate, to find friends, to get knowledge! And

YOU ARE RESTRICTING US OUR RIGHTS.

Doesn't a Chineese, that desires to be some big consul one day, have a right to learn about life in foreign countries not just from his TV or wikipedia, but from the people who live there? Doesn't an American who left the US with some beautiful Czech have a right to keep in touch with his people? Doesn't a simple man have a right to see what's on the other side?

They do. But despite that what you're offering is similar to locking us away, dividing us into ghettos. Is that the way the symbol of world's tolerance must be heading? Do you really want to make such a mistake?

[/drama]

EDIT: Originally I intended to just post, - "You can always use VPN, if you need to get on the other server that badly". But some good ol' drama's good, so RadarX use my text to change the way big bosses think.

**RadarX** · 2012-02-21, 07:02 PM

Originally Posted by ThGlump

They had only 6, count them 6, weeks since they signed it and announced it. There is only a little that can be worked out in that short time.

This is actually quite true but they've been working hard on it. PlanetSide 2 still has time before worrying about this and we'll of course provide more as it becomes available.

Lonehunter · 2012-02-21, 07:03 PM

Originally Posted by basti

Yet there is nothing, absolutly nothing stopping you from being in Europe, creating a SOE account, and playing on some american servers

Originally Posted by Vash02

you will only be able to play the above mentioned games through a ProSiebenSat.1 Games account.

Seems to me you won't be able to make an SOE account in Europe (unless you go around their rules). To play any game made by SOE you'll have to go through ProSieben, and they won't let you play with American servers.

As for an opinion in the matter, screw SOE for taking away my Irish Outfitmates

Edit: and, since when is playing with Americans a requirement to enjoy the game? I can understand being split from outfit mates, but shouldn't Europe get enough marketing to get a stable community of their own?

BlazingSun · 2012-02-21, 07:05 PM

I just realized russia is not on the list ... thank god

.

(You know what I mean NewSith

)

Cyborgmatt · 2012-02-21, 07:06 PM

Originally Posted by IDukeNukeml

Jesus H Christ Lord All Mighty in Heaven CHILLLL OUTTTTTTT.

I seen 11 pages of "WTF SONY" and was like "oh JESUS they messed up bad..

Then i read it.........

To every single frackin player out there.

8.8.8.8
8.8.4.4 if you want a secondary

IS a FREE DNS for GOOGLE, use this in conjunction with a 12 dollar program from www.hidemyass.com, gather two other overseas / easy to change DNS servers, have them all listed on your network adapter and you're done. They can't trace it, it's not fucking illegal (regardless of what some may think) except for Korea... Chills the balls from chaffin' on your leg brothers.

It's just some legal bullshit and contracts to get better server deals... it's easy as fuck to break and completely legal.

SO RELAX. <3

Edit: SOE just couldn't make a game without pissing someone off somehow... It's part of their fucking checklist.

Changing your DNS settings will not bypass IP locks, the DNS doesn't control your physical IP, it's only responsible for resolving host names into IP addresses.

Using a VPN will let you bypass it but it will increase lag and it's 2012 for god sake, we shouldn't have to resort to these kind of methods, PS1 didn't have this issue yet a decade later and here we are.

NewSith · 2012-02-21, 07:07 PM

Originally Posted by BlazingSun

I just realized russia is not on the list ... thank god

.

(You know what I mean NewSith

)

You're going to like my new Camo Fashion Week...

Sighpolice · 2012-02-21, 07:10 PM

how do they profit out of this? Is it just cheaper maintenance costs etc. to let a secondary company take over?

I never play on US servers anyway so it doesn't really affect me (not trolling)

Mastachief · 2012-02-21, 07:11 PM

Originally Posted by BlazingSun

I just realized russia is not on the list ... thank god

.

(You know what I mean NewSith

)

That is probably just an omission and we will be invaded by hacking 16 year old Russians.

Lunarchild · 2012-02-21, 07:12 PM

Duke: Look up Geo-IP. It is in fact very easy to block everyone from a single country if you really want to.

Nephilimuk · 2012-02-21, 07:14 PM

Good because it wasn't personal. Honestly if I hadn't nabbed it, someone else would have.

I cannot clarify more at this time as details are still being worked out. Even though this isn't an official SOE forum, I am reading the feedback (except for the insults because we have a special brain filter). We want to know your thoughts and I'm glad many of you are expressing them.

Hi Radar

Thanks for posting please find below some feedback minus the insults which I hope is clear and kind of constructive.

In 2009 SOE took the decision to merge its existing Planetside servers into a single server Gemini. This brought together the existing global Planetside base into a single environment in which loyal paying customer created new bonds and continued to play the game they loved despite any significant content updates. In effect this has created a global private members club in which people pay to play with friends and a lot of time nostalgia. The global players of this club have been the games greatest advocates and some of the hype around Planetside 2 can be directly attributed to this worldwide community prior to any major push from SOE. This may have been an unforeseen consequence, but it is a direct effect of the business decision to merge the servers. SOE you have created this community and in the main this community has support you by remaining subscribed to a zombie MMO Planetside 1.

We now receive the news that this “club” which was inadvertently created by SOE is now going to be disbanded and removed due to a change in the business model and a sharing of risk with a European partner. Great business decision for SOE and I fully understand why it is attractive. This does however have a considerable impact on your most loyal players and the ones who stuck with you despite no real support. In effect you have alienated your European player base and split your existing community. (It has not been confirmed about the I.P banning or not being able to play in the US but with out a formal statement from SOE i am airing on the side of caution)

Personally I do not feel as a paying customer to PS1 this is great customer service and if I would have known this 6 months ago I would have questioned keeping my subscription open. (back drop of account hacks possible personal data loss ect...)

A second and more interesting slant to what is unfolding is the question if the European servers are run by a separate company what would the impact be on access for Europeans to the Planetside 2 Beta?

We have been told time and time again that us PS1 players would be looked after as the game has been hyped and SOE has solicited the community. I am a subscribing player and still play PS1 I would hope I fall into this category. If this is not the case then, then that certainly leaves a sour taste in the mouth and with out meaning to sound over emotional discriminated against should other members of the private members club you created get to play.

A bit of a PR cock up at the moment but I am sure a formal statement will go a long way to counter act any irrational fears which may be surfacing in the community.

I do understand that there are winners and losers in any business decision. However burning advocates of the Planetside brand in such away does not seem overly smart. The adage no publicity is bad publicity is not strictly true in the digital age.

Accuser · 2012-02-21, 07:14 PM

Would I have to buy a Chinese version of the game to play it on their servers? I doubt I could get an English version that could work where I live...
This probably adds up to me not getting to play PS2 at all

NewSith · 2012-02-21, 07:18 PM

Originally Posted by Mastachief

That is probably just an omission and we will be invaded by hacking 16 year old Russians.

If PS2's russian community does things right, then it will not be that bad. But despite that I'm still being a nazi towards my countrymen and imo Russia must have a separate server. I can always play with you via VPN.

Lunarchild · 2012-02-21, 07:19 PM

Originally Posted by IDukeNukeml

geo ip is a fucking joke, I could have cracked that shit at 13.

If you want, I'll youtube a 20 second fix on how to obliterate geoip

All I find is proxies / VPNs. No real fix ^^

**RadarX** · 2012-02-21, 07:20 PM

Originally Posted by Nephilimuk

Hi Radar

Thanks for posting please find below some feedback minus the insults which I hope is clear and kind of constructive.

In 2009 SOE took the decision to merge its existing Planetside servers into a single server Gemini. This brought together the existing global Planetside base into a single environment in which loyal paying customer created new bonds and continued to play the game they loved despite any significant content updates. In effect this has created a global private members club in which people pay to play with friends and a lot of time nostalgia. The global players of this club have been the games greatest advocates and some of the hype around Planetside 2 can be directly attributed to this worldwide community prior to any major push from SOE. This may have been an unforeseen consequence, but it is a direct effect of the business decision to merge the servers. SOE you have created this community and in the main this community has support you by remaining subscribed to a zombie MMO Planetside 1.

We now receive the news that this “club” which was inadvertently created by SOE is now going to be disbanded and removed due to a change in the business model and a sharing of risk with a European partner. Great business decision for SOE and I fully understand why it is attractive. This does however have a considerable impact on your most loyal players and the ones who stuck with you despite no real support. In effect you have alienated your European player base and split your existing community. (It has not been confirmed about the I.P banning or not being able to play in the US but with out a formal statement from SOE i am airing on the side of caution)

Personally I do not feel as a paying customer to PS1 this is great customer service and if I would have known this 6 months ago I would have questioned keeping my subscription open. (back drop of account hacks possible personal data loss ect...)

A second and more interesting slant to what is unfolding is the question if the European servers are run by a separate company what would the impact be on access for Europeans to the Planetside 2 Beta?

We have been told time and time again that us PS1 players would be looked after as the game has been hyped and SOE has solicited the community. I am a subscribing player and still play PS1 I would hope I fall into this category. If this is not the case then, then that certainly leaves a sour taste in the mouth and with out meaning to sound over emotional discriminated against should other members of the private members club you created get to play.

A bit of a PR cock up at the moment but I am sure a formal statement will go a long way to counter act any irrational fears which may be surfacing in the community.

I do understand that there are winners and losers in any business decision. However burning advocates of the Planetside brand in such away does not seem overly smart. The adage no publicity is bad publicity is not strictly true in the digital age.

I wanted to thank you personally for taking the time to write this up. This, in it's entirely, is the kind of feedback that goes straight up the pipe. I realize this is difficult news to receive, and wish I had more specifics I could provide. This transition is affecting the bulk of SOE's customers, both current and future, so it's difficult to convey just how large of a project this is. We (this includes SOE's decision makers) do recognize it's impact and we are out there right now listening.

Vash02 · 2012-02-21, 07:20 PM

Originally Posted by IDukeNukeml

geo ip is a fucking joke, I could have cracked that shit at 13.

If you want, I'll youtube a 20 second fix on how to obliterate geoip

Can you hack into SOE and give me my Vet benifets on both Pro7 and SOE accounts? I'm betting you cant.