To be honest, I'm disappointed PS2 is copying CoD/BF's gunplay. - Page 4

**Higby** · 2012-03-12, 02:26 PM

Originally Posted by Raymac

Don't get worked up over a troll, Higby. The Planetside 2 dev team might be many things, but "lazy" is clearly not one of them. This VanuMaxGuy is most likely Marth Koopa is got a temp ban on here (on the same day VanuMAXGuy created their account) for being a troll douchebag. He's also the same prick that sexually harrassed Luperza on twitter.

Everyone knows how hard you guys are working to make the best game you can. Don't let yourself get trolled.

Yeh, I know he's a troll, same dude on twitter bugging me with the same nonsense. I more wanted you guys to all know where were coming from. The gunplay you have seen isn't final by any means, we have a lot more hard work to go before we're all happy with it - and it's much more of a "meeting the impressively high bar that's been set by other AAA FPS games" than "copying [battlefield/halo/cod/whatever]" when we integrate those features into Planetside. There is a price to admission to be a AAA FPS game, and these types of gunplay feel mechanics are part of that.

Knocky · 2012-03-12, 02:28 PM

Originally Posted by Higby

Yeh, I know he's a troll, same dude on twitter bugging me with the same nonsense. I more wanted you guys to all know where were coming from. The gunplay you have seen isn't final by any means, we have a lot more hard work to go before we're all happy with it - and it's much more of a "meeting the impressively high bar that's been set by other AAA FPS games" than "copying [battlefield/halo/cod/whatever]" when we integrate those features into Planetside. There is a price to admission to be a AAA FPS game, and these types of gunplay feel mechanics are part of that.

Someone is not getting a beta invite.

Aurmanite · 2012-03-12, 02:33 PM

"Too much like *game*" is basically a position for people who don't want to think about what they're saying. That sentence gives them something to say, a position to hold, without having to do any of the actual work involved in having an informed opinion.

The biggest question that developed after watching the GDC demo, is how will heavy weaponry work with these rifles/SMGs? I couldn't imagine a MCG in Battlefield or CoD the same way I couldn't imagine a Cycler or Gauss in Team Fortress.

EDIT:

Can I buy a ban for this VanuMAXGuy?
What a scumbag.

Stardouser · 2012-03-12, 02:34 PM

Originally Posted by Higby

Trust me, if we were "lazy" we wouldn't have all those elements in the game, they're incredibly hard to get right and we're still a long way from having them feel perfect. Making guns feel like a game from 10 years ago isn't hard, but every person who hasn't been in a cave for the last 10 years will feel like something is missing when they play. You guys are also looking at gameplay videos which means you're concentrating a lot more on the animations and screenshakes than you would be when playing and focusing on guys getting into your crosshairs.

What's this!? A dev actually debating the game with the common rabble? That's a victory over Battlefield right there! Just don't be like DICE/EA and take away features, then claim that telemetry proves people don't use the feature, which of course they can't now that it has been taken away!

Anyway, I subscribed this morning to station pass and gave Planetside a try. Now I haven't unlocked any weapons other than the newb stuff and I was playing Vanu(just random), but it seems like there's no...solidity to the gunfire. Meaning it's difficult to perceive your shots hitting the targets. If nothing else, from what I've seen of the PS2 videos, that's going to be fixed.

Note that I only played Vanu so if the other faction weapons have a better feel I wouldn't know yet.

UnknownDT · 2012-03-12, 02:35 PM

Originally Posted by Higby

Yeh, I know he's a troll, same dude on twitter bugging me with the same nonsense. I more wanted you guys to all know where were coming from. The gunplay you have seen isn't final by any means, we have a lot more hard work to go before we're all happy with it - and it's much more of a "meeting the impressively high bar that's been set by other AAA FPS games" than "copying [battlefield/halo/cod/whatever]" when we integrate those features into Planetside. There is a price to admission to be a AAA FPS game, and these types of gunplay feel mechanics are part of that.

Higgles strikes again.. I lol'd pretty good at that first sentence. Awesome.

Gandhi · 2012-03-12, 02:36 PM

Originally Posted by Aurmanite

"Too much like *game*" is basically a position for people who don't want to think about what they're saying. That sentence gives them something to say, a position to hold, without having to do any of the actual work involved in having an informed opinion.

Just like "Every modern *genre* has this feature", which I've seen thrown around just as often.

UnknownDT · 2012-03-12, 02:37 PM

A ban of this guy would be pretty good for all of us :P

Knocky · 2012-03-12, 02:48 PM

Originally Posted by Stardouser

I was playing Vanu(just random), but it seems like there's no...solidity to the gunfire. Meaning it's difficult to perceive your shots hitting the targets. If nothing else, from what I've seen of the PS2 videos, that's going to be fixed.

Note that I only played Vanu so if the other faction weapons have a better feel I wouldn't know yet.

Stop right now!

Create a TR or NC. We use REAL weapons not that glow ball BS.

NC for hard hitting.

TR for spray and pray.

basti · 2012-03-12, 02:49 PM

Enough is enough, really.

Get rid of VanuMaxGuy, and simply ban any new trolls right away.
This community is no place for dicks.

Tasorin · 2012-03-12, 02:49 PM

This thread is like the chicken and the egg. It's an industry standard to have gun sway when you move and has been that way probably since you were sucking on your momma's teet.

The trash threads seem to be growing exponentially as more future players get redirected to this site as the unofficial PlanetSide community site.

Skitrel · 2012-03-12, 03:02 PM

People like VanuMax are what the [ignore me] button is for folks.

Use it. Stop bumping this thread from here on. Don't feed the trolls.

FastAndFree · 2012-03-12, 03:04 PM

Oh man, I wish I got into beta like you. Oh wait

Knocky · 2012-03-12, 03:06 PM

Originally Posted by Skitrel

People like VanuMax are what the [ignore me] button is for folks.

Use it. Stop bumping this thread from here on. Don't feed the trolls.

This thread is now in the VIP listing....there is no stopping it.

ThGlump · 2012-03-12, 03:12 PM

Dev told us that you can chose FOV 60-90. But if he wont get his desired 120 he will be very angry and troll

Aaand now we have to look for newly registered to find who he will be next.

Knocky · 2012-03-12, 03:13 PM

Originally Posted by Stardouser

Are you basing your request for FOV change based on having played PS1 or having watched PS2 videos? Personally I can't tell whether there's FOV issues just from watching videos.

Also, is there supposed to be some relationship between FOV and gunplay?

PS1 allows third person wallhumping heroes.

Third person is removed for infantry in PS2.

Now they are complaining about FoV to compensate for their "leet skills" being removed.