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Old 2012-07-08, 03:12 PM   [Ignore Me] #31
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Re: What happen to the Empire Distinctivness in AV weapons?


The Phoenix high point is that it can out-deci a deci. But the camera guided mode is mainly useful for short scouting a position.
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Old 2012-07-08, 03:37 PM   [Ignore Me] #32
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But the camera guided mode is mainly useful for short scouting a position.
And making it impossible for the enemy to use maxes in a base defense.
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Old 2012-07-08, 05:11 PM   [Ignore Me] #33
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Re: What happen to the Empire Distinctivness in AV weapons?


So it's good at killing MAXs and terrible at killing vehicles compared to the other two... that's stayed the same.

That being said, when we were working on Versus it was the understanding that even AV weapons were subject to ranged damage degradation in PS... was this untrue?
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Old 2012-07-08, 05:19 PM   [Ignore Me] #34
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Re: What happen to the Empire Distinctivness in AV weapons?


I thought they were replacing the camera guided phoenix style AV guns for each empire with a laser guided style.
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Old 2012-07-08, 05:46 PM   [Ignore Me] #35
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Originally Posted by Xyntech View Post
I thought they were replacing the camera guided phoenix style AV guns for each empire with a laser guided style.
awe, I liked the phoenix. Bring it back.
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Old 2012-07-08, 05:48 PM   [Ignore Me] #36
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Originally Posted by Buggsy View Post
awe, I liked the phoenix. Bring it back.
As a wise VS dev once said: cus-tum-ize-a-shun!

Maybe they'll find a balanced way to bring it back as another sidegrade option. The Phoenix could be annoying as hell, but not to the point that I'd mind seeing it come back.
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Old 2012-07-08, 06:21 PM   [Ignore Me] #37
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And making it impossible for the enemy to use maxes in a base defense.
Outdoors, certainly. But then your snipers pick those Phoenix users off with free kill after free kill.

Honestly, my favorite thing to do when playing VS or TR is to snipe and punish NC that haven't learned to Phoenix correctly.
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Old 2012-07-08, 06:24 PM   [Ignore Me] #38
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Hopefully they are less distinctive. Its ridiculous that the empires never filled obvious holes in their armories.

You can still keep things distinctive.

For instance, the VSs Lancer could be the best direct fire AV weapon, and the TR and NC are slightly sub par.

Even better, the VS version is available straight away, while the NC and TR version would be available higher in the cert tree. This would keep the empires different as a whole, since most everyone would have access to the basic type of weapon for their empire, but more dedicated souls could get the other empires gear and fill that hole if they felt like it.

But either way, its ridiculous that the TR and NC forgot about the concept of the anti material recoilless rifle.

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Old 2012-07-08, 06:28 PM   [Ignore Me] #39
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Originally Posted by Baneblade View Post
Outdoors, certainly. But then your snipers pick those Phoenix users off with free kill after free kill.
I can't say I've ever died to a sniper while using a phoenix on my BR24 NC.
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Old 2012-07-08, 06:30 PM   [Ignore Me] #40
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I can't say I've ever died to a sniper while using a phoenix on my BR24 NC.
Yeah, it doesn't take too much smarts to hide behind a hill or tree or something.
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