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Old 2012-07-28, 12:44 AM   [Ignore Me] #31
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You mean we almost had plausible weapon systems instead of comic book stuff?

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Old 2012-07-28, 01:44 AM   [Ignore Me] #32
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Anyone else like these concepts better than what we have now? But I doubt if they used these, they would look like the concept art.
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Old 2012-07-28, 02:12 AM   [Ignore Me] #33
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They look good, but as others have said they are too near future looking.
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Old 2012-07-28, 02:13 AM   [Ignore Me] #34
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I like everything but the infantry and maybe the Prowler more. That Prowler with two cannons might win me over. The Vanguard might be a bit too Abrams-y for me there as well. It's just a shame he put so much work into those for them not to be used.

I can see the argument for the tanks being too close to modern tanks.

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This is the last VIP post in this thread.   Old 2012-07-28, 02:44 AM   [Ignore Me] #35
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Its interesting how much of it they kept.
- Mosquito, Reaver, and Galaxy are almost identical to their current incarnations, or at least the versions from a few months ago.
- Vanguard looks very similar.
- Lightning chassis looks very close to its current incarnation.
- TR description of infantry mentions them being the most lightweight (i.e. fastest), with the NC having the most protection at the cost of comfort and weight (i.e slow but can take more punishment). So in this incarnation the empire themes were already showing, particularly the new TR theme of speed.
- Burst fire on the prowler, like we saw in the GDC video, also fitting with TR theme.

And its interesting what changed
- Prowler looks nothing like the concept.
- Prowler was listed as a stealth tank! Now that would be cool if it lived up to its name.
- Vanguard had an artillery mode.
- Reaver and Mosquito are listed as Nanite Systems vehicles at this time, and it clearly looks as though the Reaver is intended to be a gunship (anyone remember the two seats in the early reaver render?)
- Lightning looks almost like an APC in armament.
- TR infantry almost look like Splinter Cell soldiers, makes me wonder if the Prowler Stealth was not the only stealthy part of the TR vision at this time.
- And of course the infantry art looks nothing like the present models.

I'm willing to bet these concepts were created before T-Ray came in and made some calls about empire shape and color, which caused the Prowler to be radically changed, as well as the infantry uniforms. The mosquito and reaver looked already close to that vision, same with Vanguard.

For some reason these pictures and concepts make me think of early renders of Team Fortress 2.
http://media.bestofmicro.com/An-earl...W-94604-13.jpg
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Old 2012-07-28, 03:56 AM   [Ignore Me] #36
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Originally Posted by Canaris View Post
You know what's great about these pics, no Vanu. Guess they were considering leaving them out.... not that would have been a bad thing
They decided to stop after the Vanny and the Prowler because they couldn't figure out how to make a Mag that would look like it was used in Desert Storm.
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Old 2012-07-28, 05:00 AM   [Ignore Me] #37
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Who is the artist and what is the source for these?
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Old 2012-07-28, 05:02 AM   [Ignore Me] #38
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They are from davient art. And there fan made not official.


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Old 2012-07-28, 06:09 AM   [Ignore Me] #39
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Originally Posted by CutterJohn View Post
:O

You mean we almost had plausible weapon systems instead of comic book stuff?

The aircraft are all pretty much the same. The vanguard looks very similar to the current one, as does the lightning, save for its armament. The only things that stand out as being totally different are the infantry and prowler concepts, both of which look horribly bland.

I don't particularly like the current Prowler, it does indeed look comical, and I think it needs an overhaul, but at least they didn't decide to go with a generic 'near-future but pretty much identical to contemporary design' theme.
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Old 2012-07-28, 07:25 AM   [Ignore Me] #40
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It's interesting that the Mossie seems to have lost the cheek-mounted sensor spike recently, but it still shows up on the 2D icons in game. Guess that stuff just takes a while to change.

Originally Posted by razor851 View Post
Infantry looks sooo bad.
They're certainly very Japanese.

e/ Seeing as the Prowler can mount anti-tank rocket tubes, it'd be great if we could respec the Lightning to be like this one, with a slow firing AV rocket launcher and a light AI rotary cannon on the same turret.

e2/ Vanguard artillery mode: here, let me just remove the floor so we can elevate the gun enough. *TR rolls grenade under chassis*

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Old 2012-07-28, 08:16 AM   [Ignore Me] #41
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Originally Posted by Roy Awesome View Post
Why would you do a 56k warning in 2012?
Reading a thread does wonders

Originally Posted by bjorntju1 View Post
Yeah I wanted to put something like ''many pictures'' in the title, but since most people know what 56k means, I just put that in the title
Originally Posted by Rivenshield View Post
Who is the artist and what is the source for these?
As in the original post

http://ukitakumuki.deviantart.com

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They are from davient art. And there fan made not official.
Actually the person was hired by SOE to work on PS Next

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Old 2012-07-28, 08:20 AM   [Ignore Me] #42
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Originally Posted by Pella View Post
And there fan made not official.
Although they were official at one point. Check the image description on the deviantArt page.
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Old 2012-07-28, 09:15 AM   [Ignore Me] #43
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Thanks for posting this. The Moskito and Reaver somehow look a bit better in those pictures than in game. This Vanguard is hands down better, than what he have in the game now. I'm no fan of how the current Prowler looks, but that concept art isn't doing it for me either. The Infantry doesn't look that bad in my opinion (apart from the NC neck protection) - at least they got armor where there should be some, like a fully covered torso, a covered groin area and neck protection unlike the (NC) models that are in the game now.

What I like best though is, that the NC are depicted as well equipped and professional and not as rebels in worn out lumberjack shirts.
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Old 2012-07-28, 09:27 AM   [Ignore Me] #44
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Those are some pretty sweet tanks there , look like they where designed off of the Abrams and germany's Leopard 2.
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Old 2012-07-28, 02:15 PM   [Ignore Me] #45
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Originally Posted by Canaris View Post
You know what's great about these pics, no Vanu. Guess they were considering leaving them out.... not that would have been a bad thing

The artist says he hasn't released everything yet... he's waiting for the game to get closer to release.

I bet he's got pretty wild re-imaginings of the Vanu, conceptual sunderers, and maybe the buggies too.
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