Vanu politics

[Mongo]

sadly tis not my argument mearly an observation of others views, so your statement of my argument being invalid, is invalid in itself which makes it true again...I think!

For example I observe you mention he is black but you ignore conciously or subconciously the observation on touching, does that mean that he may be an alleged ... er religious practioner? For example:

[Lord Paladin]

I really want to write some fiction about this now. It sounds like a fun project

[Blackwolf]

Originally Posted by Mongo

sadly tis not my argument mearly an observation of others views, so your statement of my argument being invalid, is invalid in itself which makes it true again...I think!

For example I observe you mention he is black but you ignore conciously or subconciously the observation on touching, does that mean that he may be an alleged ... er religious practioner? For example:

Actually his comment was directed at your statement and is not invalidated simply because your statement was the combination of two other statements. In reality, you were the one who mentioned religious white supremacy. No one else made these connections. Your statement continues to be fully invalidated by T-Ray's existence.

Originally Posted by Liwen Diamond

Not quite an Hive Mind. Hive Minds are lead by one individual with loads and loads of mindless drones.

In a 'Big neuronal net' everyone still retains their free will and personality, but can comminucate information and feelings to the others and receive information. What they choose to do with said information is their own damn buisness, but usually for one to have access to this network, they have to follow a set of rules, have genuine beliefs in what the Vanu Sovregnity stands for and obey superiors. Otherwise they are quickly identified as traitors and shot in the face, or possibly even killed by mind assault, depending on how far VS is willing to go. However, to not be oppressive, everyone should be able to disconnect from the network without it being considered strange or suspicious and no forceful intruision in the minds of anyone should be possible.

Probably closer to Ghost in the Shell kind of network. An internet of information with every individual being able to access that internet via a computer built into their neck or something. This allows the free voluntary exchange of information, without the constant connection.

But chances are they are just technocrats with a council of scientific experts. No mass internet that all their minds are connected to. Interesting ideas though.

[Gugabalog]

Not exactly on topic but was just listening to "Rally My Republic" and it severely makes me doubt the Vanu way. IRL I'm not sure whether I would go VS or NC. NC is unfit to govern Auraxis due to their corporate roots and the VS are too confident.

But the TR are fucking nazis. I couldn't stand being ruled by a junta.

Theocracy, Oligarchy, or Facism?

Progress, Freedom, or Order?

Anarchy, Slave to the Credit, or Brutality?

Is there a hope of rescue?

If so, TR all the way.

If not...I just don't know. To be ruled by sociopaths or by fanatics?

TBH I think I'd fight for the NC and then grab anyone trying to take power by the balls or tits and fucking kill them. Atleast sociopaths care about their own skins...

I'm really conflicted about the factions ideology lore-wise...

[Mongo]

Originally Posted by Blackwolf

Actually his comment was directed at your statement and is not invalidated simply because your statement was the combination of two other statements. In reality, you were the one who mentioned religious white supremacy. No one else made these connections. Your statement continues to be fully invalidated by T-Ray's existence.

My post was an observation of two other posters suggestions, I merely combined them for some tongue in cheek humour, given the faux par of comparing vanu to an unintentionally racist show and of talking about it as a religion and mentioning touching.

However im glad you are slowly redacting the idea im putting forth an "argument", I do feel it is odd I have to explain the meaning of a post twice - I know what I mean and I mean what I say..

Maybe If I reiterate in caps? OBSERVATIONAL HUMOUR! Here is another example while remainig within the boundaries of our discussion**:


I also have my suspicions of T-RAY actually not being Vanu!

Evidence 1: I observe(hint) His Name when abbreviated = TR /gasp!!

Evidence 2: /gasp!!11one


**note there may also be some hints of sarcasm in the following text.

[Liwen Diamond]

Originally Posted by Gugabalog

Not exactly on topic but was just listening to "Rally My Republic" and it severely makes me doubt the Vanu way. IRL I'm not sure whether I would go VS or NC. NC is unfit to govern Auraxis due to their corporate roots and the VS are too confident.

But the TR are fucking nazis. I couldn't stand being ruled by a junta.

Theocracy, Oligarchy, or Facism?

Progress, Freedom, or Order?

Anarchy, Slave to the Credit, or Brutality?

Is there a hope of rescue?

If so, TR all the way.

If not...I just don't know. To be ruled by sociopaths or by fanatics?

TBH I think I'd fight for the NC and then grab anyone trying to take power by the balls or tits and fucking kill them. Atleast sociopaths care about their own skins...

I'm really conflicted about the factions ideology lore-wise...

That's the coolest thing about the lore of Planetside. They are not good guys, there is no ideal solution. People are stuck in an endless war and everybody is going about it all wrong. Which is why I believe in the end, gameplay will by the deciding factor of faction choice for most people. If you wanted to truely resolve the conflict the right way, I'd have to come up with a 4th faction with an entirely new ideology.

[berzerkerking]

It seems you have come to doubt our ways young acolyte.

Originally Posted by berzerkerking

Abandon your fear. Look forward. Move forward and never stop. You'll age if you pull back. You'll die if you hesitate." ...
~Zangetsu

The Vanu Sovereignity don't claim to be the only enforcers of what is right, or that they give absolute freedom, but they do claim to be unafraid of progress, and that is why I follow.

[/QUOTE]
Move forward and never stop. We are the Vanu and we are tommorow

[Blackwolf]

Originally Posted by Mongo

Too much to quote

Look I'm simply pointing out that you had an observation/opinion and that someone else rightfully debunked it (and just as playfully I might add).

If anyone isn't playing along with the joke, it's you.

And Gug, you think too much about unimportant things. It's not like if you chose to side with the TR, you have to act like them in RL and join a supremacy group or whatever. The appeal of these games is that we aren't these things in RL. Play an empire based on playstyle and make of their ideology whatever you want.

You also strike me as incredibly gullible. Not everything spouted on the forums is true.

[Elthbert]

Thee Vanu are traitors to the Human race. The TR are Fascist. The NC are freedom lovers who have not sold out their entire species for a hover tank.


What else do you need to know?

[therandomone]

Originally Posted by Elthbert

Thee Vanu are traitors to the Human race. The TR are Fascist. The NC are freedom lovers who have not sold out their entire species for a hover tank.


What else do you need to know?

I never understood that whole "traitor to the human race" thing. Because they try and progress humanity they are against it? A modern day example would be the US Armys research on powered exoskeltons. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Powered_exoskeleton

Does that mean they are traitors to the human race? Nope. They're just trying to make it more awesome.

[Elthbert]

Nope they are transhumanist, everyone in planetside uses high technology, but the Vanu are more than that, they have sacrificed their humanity, that's why they name themselves after aliens.