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Old 2012-12-02, 01:44 PM   [Ignore Me] #16
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You know what's going happen now, since some trust has been lost, is that there will be mass hysteria while playing, at least until Sony becomes more proactive.

Every death will be questioned, every strange anomaly will be suspect. Tons of more reports they will have to filter through, making their job even harder.

Sony dropped the ball IMO. They should have never allowed it to get this far to begin with.
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Old 2012-12-02, 04:38 PM   [Ignore Me] #17
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Originally Posted by Stormhall View Post
There will always be aimbotters no matter how hard any game company tries.
That is untrue. It just that no one want to spend the resources to eliminate them all. But you can get a game 100% free from all cheaters if you truly wanted and did not hesitate to use every method, legal or not.
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Old 2012-12-03, 01:05 PM   [Ignore Me] #18
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Originally Posted by Sunrock View Post
That is untrue. It just that no one want to spend the resources to eliminate them all. But you can get a game 100% free from all cheaters if you truly wanted and did not hesitate to use every method, legal or not.
The only way to do this is to eliminate the game client from the player's pc altogether and run it from the cloud (similar to onlive)

As long as the game software runs on a player's machine where he can tamper with it there will be cheaters.

I don't see this happening any time soon
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Old 2012-12-03, 01:14 PM   [Ignore Me] #19
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Originally Posted by morf View Post
The only way to do this is to eliminate the game client from the player's pc altogether and run it from the cloud (similar to onlive)

As long as the game software runs on a player's machine where he can tamper with it there will be cheaters.

I don't see this happening any time soon
It is still possible to aimbot with onlive, see color aimbots.
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Old 2012-12-03, 01:39 PM   [Ignore Me] #20
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Originally Posted by Beerbeer View Post
You know what's going happen now, since some trust has been lost, is that there will be mass hysteria while playing, at least until Sony becomes more proactive.

Every death will be questioned, every strange anomaly will be suspect. Tons of more reports they will have to filter through, making their job even harder.

Sony dropped the ball IMO. They should have never allowed it to get this far to begin with.
Whining about cheaters was rampant since launch. Lag? Hacking. Someone with skill? Hacker. Bugged leaderboards? Hacker.
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Old 2012-12-03, 01:51 PM   [Ignore Me] #21
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I don't believe it reached the tone it has now.

It's just human nature to discount things, and having verifiable hackers just makes it easy for everyone to have doubts and suspicions.

That's why I believe Sony should have been more proactive in preventing this from rearing its ugly head, at least not as publicly as had happened.

Once that genie is out of the bottle, people will always have that thought and reservation in the back of their minds, more so if it didn't.
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Old 2012-12-03, 02:04 PM   [Ignore Me] #22
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Originally Posted by Gryphon View Post
It is still possible to aimbot with onlive, see color aimbots.
You're right. And just to be clear, I'm not advocating cloud gaming as a solution, just saying that is what it would take to completely stop client tampering. And as you pointed out, people could still cheat.

but color aimbots wouldnt be as bad as current cheats. They would be limited to what is on the screen, so no ESP or 360 degree radar. Plus they don't scan memory to pull the absolute distance of your opponent... So I cant imagine them being accurate at a distance.
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