Render problem amplified...

[Figment]

Originally Posted by ComerEste

Pretty sure that's modifying game files, I.E. hacking. I will never do that, and to be honest I shouldn't have to. If the option in the game files exists, why isn't there a slider option in game for it? I have "Render Quality" in the graphics options at 100%, but that clearly doesn't affect render distance. And everything else is set to High except "Shadow Quality".

Changing .ini files isn't hacking. An .ini file is a .txt file with the settings that the game launches with. Tech support often asks you to check the .ini files and make a change in it to see if it boosts one's performance.

[StumpyTheOzzie]

Originally Posted by Saintlycow

Here's my solution. Anything that damages you is immediately rendered. That way, you can fight back

Or is currently locking on to you.

Originally Posted by Donefore

Look for useropions in your PS2 folder and change the Renderdistance to what ever you want ok

Or get better at the game

DUH

I was under the impression that the rendering thing was unrelated to MAXIMUM render distance.

Also, as a liberator gunner, if I change render distance to a bajillion, will I finally be able to see MAXes before they see me?

[Figment]

Originally Posted by StumpyTheOzzie

I was under the impression that the rendering thing was unrelated to MAXIMUM render distance.

Also, as a liberator gunner, if I change render distance to a bajillion, will I finally be able to see MAXes before they see me?

If I recall correctly, the vehicles have their own rendering distance that's set by the game.

[Yetskii]

WOW...what a asshat. When NC on Mattherson get warpgated like that, we get tanks and attack from both sides, and clear out the offenders...you could have rallied your fellow NC, we do it all the time...

[ComerEste]

Originally Posted by Yetskii

WOW...what a asshat. When NC on Mattherson get warpgated like that, we get tanks and attack from both sides, and clear out the offenders...you could have rallied your fellow NC, we do it all the time...

/sigh... another person who only reads the initial post and not all the responses afterwords. I explained several times why this was not an option. The only option that I have already agreed we should've taken was to go to another continent. But even that would've been a band aid because the render problem exists in every major battle, regardless of the continent your on.

[Figment]

Comer, you explained you give up easily and have no problem with exploiting and harassment and find that legit. When I posted I had read the entire thread.


Your attitude only either got worse or confirmating the OP attitude in the remainder of the thread. You still don't want to see that what you did is unacceptable behaviour and completely obscures your render problem argument.

You set yourself up for this and till you realise that what you did is unethically gamey and harassment, you won't find anyone willing to discuss your one actual legit issue.


Just because you can make an account to harass others doesn't mean you are allowed to, or even intended to.


Please think about that carefully.

[ComerEste]

Originally Posted by Figment

Comer, you explained you give up easily and have no problem with exploiting and harassment and find that legit. When I posted I had read the entire thread.

The simple fact that I keep posting in this thread proves that I don't give up easily. And if I truly have no problem with exploiting and harassment, how is it that turned down one guys offer to modify a game file because I though it was considered hacking or the fact that, even though I have been under personal attack this whole thread, I have not returned fire?

Originally Posted by Figment

Your attitude only either got worse or confirmating the OP attitude in the remainder of the thread. You still don't want to see that what you did is unacceptable behaviour and completely obscures your render problem argument.

I do see what I did as unacceptable, hence why I said I would never do it again. I knew just making another post about the render problem would probably get buried in the pile of other threads that already exists. I wanted to share my personal experience with everyone in an attempt to get more eyes on the problem. I took a personal risk and sacrificed my reputation because I want this game to get better.

Originally Posted by Figment

You set yourself up for this and till you realise that what you did is unethically gamey and harassment, you won't find anyone willing to discuss your one actual legit issue.

And yet people have tried discussing it in this thread multiple times. The only reason it hasn't kept being discussed is because some people would rather focus on the TK subject, judging me, and calling me names based off a single event.

Originally Posted by Figment

Just because you can make an account to harass others doesn't mean you are allowed to, or even intended to.

Agreed, but the only difference between my actions and the actions of the TR in this event is that people disagree with my actions. They are both a type of harassment, they are both a type of griefing, they are both built into the game system, and they are both unintended by developers. I doubt if the developers intended for a group of people to camp a warp gate and be invisible to the people they kill.

Originally Posted by Figment

Please think about that carefully.

Ditto.

[Figment]

The difference is that the TR did not make an active choice to be invisiblle. They probably don't even know when they render.


Warpgate camping has been a veteran concern ever since early alpha when the devs announced to not have an intercontinental meta game and no way to secure the link by taking the other end of the warpgate link.

Camping has been designed into this game simply due to lack of ps1 player experience and mechanic understanding on behalf of SOE (verant studio came up with the ps1 mechanics) and the rabid PS2 fanboys who tried to block our critiques and fears by stating the devs knew what they were doing.

Truth is they need us to compensate for their lack of experience in non-eq2 and rpg games. Rendering issues were probably deliberately created to ensure air was less competitive with ground units. Possibly air also has bigger render issues since they have a more significant visible area to render.

[Yetskii]

Originally Posted by ComerEste

/sigh... another person who only reads the initial post and not all the responses afterwords. I explained several times why this was not an option. The only option that I have already agreed we should've taken was to go to another continent. But even that would've been a band aid because the render problem exists in every major battle, regardless of the continent your on.

Yes you could have.....

[Hamma]

Probably not the best decision to post this thread..

[Rothnang]

I love how many people here think that abusing the hell out of the broken rendering system to kill people who have no chance to shoot back is a stroke of tactical genius.

This game is unfortunately full of people who continually make excuses for any bug, exploit, broken system and unbalanced unit as long as abusing their power takes more than one person.

[ComerEste]

Originally Posted by Hamma

Probably not the best decision to post this thread..

I knew what I was getting into, but I felt it was necessary to share the experience so others can learn from my mistake as well as get more eyes on the render issue.

@Figment, after I had rammed them the first time I did receive /tells from 2 of them basically saying the same thing so many others have said on here. But, when I informed them of the reason I was doing it, the render issue, they said they had no idea that was happening. I don't know if that effected the decision for them to leave but about 15 minutes later, they did.

[Rodel]

Hmmm...

My favorite part is the in-game signature... nice touch.