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Old 2013-03-22, 06:49 PM   [Ignore Me] #16
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Re: So the Phoenix ....


All empires need wire guided rockets done just like BF2 in terms of flight speed, turning, and incoming missile warning.
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Old 2013-03-22, 08:11 PM   [Ignore Me] #17
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Originally Posted by Ghoest9 View Post
Its slightly fun - it a totally useless way...
My AMS, the one that exploded due to fire from across a facility, would disagree. Once it's spotted there is little to nothing that can be done to save it.
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Old 2013-03-22, 09:32 PM   [Ignore Me] #18
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I cant even describe how disappointed I am in the phoenix. When testing it out today I fired over 30 rockets in both the VR and in combat on a trial and only TWO of those rockets ever went into camera mode. The rest just dumb fired like a normal launcher. Is there some trick or something to activate the camera or something? I see others use it but it wont ever work for me.
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Old 2013-03-22, 09:38 PM   [Ignore Me] #19
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Originally Posted by Ghoest9 View Post
Its slightly fun - it a totally useless way.

The range is short and the damage in inconsequential.

I cant imagine ever equiping this thing for a fight.

You're insane.

I died repeatedly to Phoenix tonight. In a Biolab. Popping to the roof of a spawn point. Out in the open.

I run a heavy with T2 Flak armor on to go after tanks and AC.

I'm a most disappointed atm.
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Old 2013-03-22, 10:02 PM   [Ignore Me] #20
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Originally Posted by TheSaltySeagull View Post
I cant even describe how disappointed I am in the phoenix. When testing it out today I fired over 30 rockets in both the VR and in combat on a trial and only TWO of those rockets ever went into camera mode. The rest just dumb fired like a normal launcher. Is there some trick or something to activate the camera or something? I see others use it but it wont ever work for me.
Sounds like you used a Shrike most the time. You sure you pulled the right suit? I often grab AV by accident when trying to pull AA.

I would say the Phoenix is the weakest of the three ES AV in terms of AA btw. Hitting any moving air unit is pure chance, even if you lead well. My main problem with it is the lack of a remote detonation to use splash damage like you did in PS1.

The Striker vs a Sunderer (even one with double armour level) is impossible to repair against btw.


I've also seen the NC trademark sit-back-and-spam-but-whatever-you-do-don't-push-footzerg is slowly returning to the field. :P

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Old 2013-03-22, 10:08 PM   [Ignore Me] #21
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Sounds like you used a Shrike most the time. You sure you pulled the right suit? I often grab AV by accident when trying to pull AA.
No it was the phoenix I am sure. I do not play NC I made a character just to test out the phoenix so I dont have any other launchers other than the basic one. And like I said it did work for two of the 30 Rockets and I did not switch loadouts.

I heard others say the camera bugs out but for me it was bugging out like 99% of the time. Maybe I was just unlucky or something but the phoenix apparently hates me. It must know I play TR :P
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Old 2013-03-23, 02:23 AM   [Ignore Me] #22
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Originally Posted by TheSaltySeagull View Post
I cant even describe how disappointed I am in the phoenix. When testing it out today I fired over 30 rockets in both the VR and in combat on a trial and only TWO of those rockets ever went into camera mode. The rest just dumb fired like a normal launcher. Is there some trick or something to activate the camera or something? I see others use it but it wont ever work for me.
I had the same issue, in the end I just couldn't get it to fire in camera mode at all it was zoom in an dumb fire.
Very nice reload action though.
Far too buggy for me to spend any SC if that's what can randomly happen.
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Old 2013-03-23, 09:23 AM   [Ignore Me] #23
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Originally Posted by TheSaltySeagull View Post
I cant even describe how disappointed I am in the phoenix. When testing it out today I fired over 30 rockets in both the VR and in combat on a trial and only TWO of those rockets ever went into camera mode. The rest just dumb fired like a normal launcher. Is there some trick or something to activate the camera or something? I see others use it but it wont ever work for me.
I had a similar issue. 1+ hour of playing with it and only managed to get the camera guided mode once. Buried in the the main thread on the official forums someone had a 90% solution. For some reason it doesn't like the larger FOV. I dropped mine from 74 to 60 and I went from 99% dumb fire to 5% dumb fire.
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