Feel a little betrayed by tech test

[moosepoop]

Originally Posted by Littleman

People need to understand:

We're greedy, selfish, and love Planetside to bits, and will cling to every little thing that improves our chances on getting into Planetside 2 sooner rather than later. This includes the "promise" to PS1 vets.

People call us entitled. People call us brats: they're just taking the high road. In truth everyone wants in ASAP. Calling people out as entitled really just deserves the response, "No #!%, Sherlock."

I'd rather not wait if I can help it.

you are an entitled brat.

[Ranik Ortega]

Originally Posted by proxy

Here is my question to you:

Did you play this game with the idea you would reap early entry to the sequel? Seriously, for years I would check once or twice annually if there was going to be PS2 and for years, they said "no plans".

You played because PS1 was different, unique, right? Isn't that reward itself?



Then why quote me?

I was asking him if my "suffering at the hands of SOE" at two games was greater than his 1. I also didn't like his "outsiders" comment.

Its sillygoosery.

Because you still used a similar argument with I hope you don't act like this IRL

[EisenKreutzer]

Originally Posted by Ranik Ortega

This isn't directed at you but, Entitled is the newest industry buzz word.

You think you deserve a game with a decent ending like we promised? You entitled little prick.

You think veterans should get in first like we promised because you supported the game for 9 years? God you PS1 vets are entitled elitists.

Seriously stop using the word "entitled". Every time you use it i laugh at you just as i laugh at blizz/biodrones.

There are some valid arguments in here so stop the "QQ more entitled baby" stuff. It's making you look like 12 year old CoD kiddies.

Cal it what you like.
When someone states that they "Feel betrayed by SOE" because they weren't let into the tech tests, that stems from a sense of entitlement. It comes from a flawed preception that because this company put out a product they liked, the company somehow owes the fans something.

Thats what entitlement means. That they are entitled to some form of reward or compesation because theyre fans.
It's complete and utter bullshit.

The company, the devs, they don't owe you jack shit. They made a product, you bought the product. They use the proceeds to improve the product, you continue to enjoy the product and support the developers by spending your money on them.
Thats the full extent of the relationship.
You can't sit behind your keyboard and demand anything from them. You are a consumer, and the game is the product you consume. If they choose to listen to your feedback, to include you in the process and respect your input, thats their prerogative. But they do not, absolutely not owe you this.

The developers have gratiously asked us, the fans, to participate in their development process by being beta testers. They didn't have to do that. But they chose to, because they value the input of the community and want to make a game the community would enjoy.

And what do you do? You bitch, and you whine, and you moan.
This isn't like in the old game whaa whaa.
This feature will ruin the game whaa whaa!
I deserve to be in the beta because I bought the original whaa whaa!
Nobody should get into the beta before me whaa whaa!

It's pathetic, it's disgusting and it all stems from that sense of entitlement.

So call it what you want. Call me a CoD fanboy, or a n00b, or a baby, or whatever the h-e-double hockeysticks you feel like calling me.

It's still entitlement. And it's still retarded.

[Haro]

This thread needs to be closed, it's getting pretty unbearable. A very poor reflection of the community over a small, stupid issue.

[Ranik Ortega]

Originally Posted by EisenKreutzer

Cal it what you like.
When someone states that they "Feel betrayed by SOE" because they weren't let into the tech tests, that stems from a sense of entitlement. It comes from a flawed preception that because this company put out a product they liked, the company somehow owes the fans something.

Thats what entitlement means. That they are entitled to some form of reward or compesation because theyre fans.
It's complete and utter bullshit.

The company, the devs, they don't owe you jack shit. They made a product, you bought the product. They use the proceeds to improve the product, you continue to enjoy the product and support the developers by spending your money on them.
Thats the full extent of the relationship.
You can't sit behind your keyboard and demand anything from them. You are a consumer, and the game is the product you consume. If they choose to listen to your feedback, to include you in the process and respect your input, thats their prerogative. But they do not, absolutely not owe you this.

The developers have gratiously asked us, the fans, to participate in their development process by being beta testers. They didn't have to do that. But they chose to, because they value the input of the community and want to make a game the community would enjoy.

And what do you do? You bitch, and you whine, and you moan.
This isn't like in the old game whaa whaa.
This feature will ruin the game whaa whaa!
I deserve to be in the beta because I bought the original whaa whaa!
Nobody should get into the beta before me whaa whaa!

It's pathetic, it's disgusting and it all stems from that sense of entitlement.

So call it what you want. Call me a CoD fanboy, or a n00b, or a baby, or whatever the h-e-double hockeysticks you feel like calling me.

It's still entitlement. And it's still retarded.

The exacerbating factors are A) "Vets will get in first" and B) The NDA video showing clearly that some serious wastes of space got into the game.

[Littleman]

Originally Posted by moosepoop

you are an entitled brat.

I ain't so proud as to let that stop me. At least I'm not lying to myself. I want into the tech test. Failing that, I want into the first wave of beta. Failing that, I hope more invites go out each consecutive day until I'm in.

Why should I care to impress people over a forum?

P.S. I understand you may be making a humorous jab.

[proxy]

Originally Posted by Ranik Ortega

Because you still used a similar argument with I hope you don't act like this IRL

Yeah, I hope he doesn't call people outsiders and shun them in real life. You got me.

[tzist]

LOL @ YOU

I made a whole bunch of SOE accounts and I got in to the tech test on 2 of them

none of the accounts ever had PS1 on them and I never played it myself nor did my friend who I gave the other account to

[Ranik Ortega]

Originally Posted by proxy

Yeah, I hope he doesn't call people outsiders and shun them in real life. You got me.

When it comes to shunning people like the dude in the NDA video you may change your mind. If not then you have a higher tolerance for team killing morons than 99% of the population.

[EisenKreutzer]

Originally Posted by Ranik Ortega

The exacerbating factors are A) "Vets will get in first" and B) The NDA video showing clearly that some serious wastes of space got into the game.

Fair enough.

A) Beta hasn't started yet. yes, it's basically semantics, but it's the version SOE is going with and thats ok by me.
B) I have no idea who's in the tech test, but I have heard reports of lots of veterans, and I'm sure most of the players who were selected are normal gamers who just want to shoot some TR scum and NC dogs like the rest of us.

[NoDachi]

Originally Posted by Ranik Ortega

When it comes to shunning people like the dude in the NDA video you may change your mind. If not then you have a higher tolerance for team killing morons than 99% of the population.

Its funny how I've had more teamwork in the tech test than I have in the last month of planetside1.

Maybe I just got lucky with my squad.

[Trolltaxi]

SOE made a promis (no one forced them) and still, not only vets get into the beta (or tech test, whatever you call it). Anyone can blame SOE for that if he wants.

The streaming guy may look like a waste of place, but his noob approach highlighted some flaws of the ... well long learning curve. Things in PS2 are not obvious or self-evident for a newcomer.

Everyone is willing to join the game as soon as possible and while we were able to wait for years (most of this time: without any hope of a sequel), these last days, weeks are the hardest. And everyone has at least a bunch of buddies already testing the game, their number grows each day, while we are still outside. This is rather hard.

I understand the OP and those who even feel cheated. It is damn hard to sit still and wait for that frickin email to come. And I wonder how much of those calling the OP butthurt or crybaby are actually in the tech test...

[Ranik Ortega]

Originally Posted by NoDachi

Its funny how I've had more teamwork in the tech test than I have in the last month of planetside1.

Maybe I just got lucky with my squad.

I don't doubt it. Playing PS1 on free month feels painful. Some people are organized most are not.

[moosepoop]

Originally Posted by Littleman

Why should I care to impress people over a forum?

because i WANT you, babby. i want you BAD.

[EisenKreutzer]

Originally Posted by Trolltaxi

SOE made a promis (no one forced them) and still, not only vets get into the beta (or tech test, whatever you call it). Anyone can blame SOE for that if he wants.

The streaming guy may look like a waste of place, but his noob approach highlighted some flaws of the ... well long learning curve. Things in PS2 are not obvious or self-evident for a newcomer.

Everyone is willing to join the game as soon as possible and while we were able to wait for years (most of this time: without any hope of a sequel), these last days, weeks are the hardest. And everyone has at least a bunch of buddies already testing the game, their number grows each day, while we are still outside. This is rather hard.

I understand the OP and those who even feel cheated. It is damn hard to sit still and wait for that frickin email to come. And I wonder how much of those calling the OP butthurt or crybaby are actually in the tech test...

+1

This debate needs more level heads like you.