This is BS - Page 2

Queensidecastle · 2003-09-04, 12:16 PM

Yeah the people who can not decide to pass on upsizeing their Big Mac combos every day for a week, so they can buy the damn upgrade piss me off. Buy the stupid upgrade or just STFU. I dont think people should even see the graphics if they dont buy, screw em. Make everything look like beamers and AMSs. It is not like it is that friken expensive.

I have no patience or tolerance for these people whatsoever.

Madcow · 2003-09-04, 01:46 PM

Excellent, pay for the expansion or else your opinion is worthless. Imagine your loyalty if you were actually on the Sony payroll.

Queensidecastle · 2003-09-04, 02:40 PM

Its utterly ridiculous to expect that you should benifit from the expansion while not being willing to pay for it

EarlyDawn · 2003-09-04, 02:44 PM

I understand the "Pay for privledges" mentality. I shouldn't have all the benefits that you guys have if you buy the expansion pack. However, it's sheer idiocy to suggest I should be unable to use a peice of equipment that fits into the criteria of what I'm allowed in-game. It's also just testament to the fact that half the dev team has no idea what's they're telling us, or what eachother are saying. If this new equipment will be as uncommon on the surface as it sounds like, it won't matter in the long run anyway. There's no problem with not allowing us to procure this equipment if we do not invest in the expansion pack, but they are creating an inharent imbalance by not making the weapons *usable by everyone*.

Like Navaron said, they can deny it all they want, but I defenitely think that they're just flinging around information to build up sales.

And no, non-expansioners will not be able to use expansion weapons or vehicles even if they procure them. That includes passenger seats. Source: http://boards.station.sony.com/ubb/p...ML/017261.html

BS, plain and simple. I would think that I would be able to use the weapons if I manage to get my hands on them regardless of expansion status purely for all the missed deadlines and absent features. While we're at it, why don't the devs try to get a solid, achievable deadline on the features I'm paying for now? As someone else said, it's great that they can put a releasedate for an expansion pack, but not for the contention features.

I'm starting to wonder what I'm paying my monthly fee for. What ever happened to customer appreciation?

[Edit: As for you Queen, it's not based on the cost. It's based on the principle and the lack of respect that SOE has for their playerbase. First they jack the LLU idea on us, an idea that NOBODY wanted, they they pull this royal fuckover. It's got nothing to do with cost.]

Queensidecastle · 2003-09-04, 02:46 PM

heh, you think these guys work for free and owe you something. Its really comical

EarlyDawn · 2003-09-04, 02:53 PM

Did you think before you posted? Seriously, let's invest more the 15 seconds thought before you shoot another off-the-hip response that has no relevance to the issue.

They don't work for free, I pay them. I pay them 15 bucks a month. They owe me what I pay for. The comment I made regarding monthly content was strictly regarding the fact that they can't get what I pay for (Content) out on time, and bug free, but yet want to imbalance my game with new weapons that I can't use or procure in any way.

It's a customer screwover, game inbalance, and a slap in the face to what we pay our monthly fees for all in one. And I never stated or implied that the devs work for free, that statement is idiotic considering that I mensioned monthly fees in my previous post.

TheRagingGerbil · 2003-09-04, 03:00 PM

Here is Caterpillars and Sporks reply in order to clear up the confusion:

CaterpillaR
Developer posted 09-04-2003 09:55 AM
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I was wrong in my previous post. Simple as that.

I did not lie or try to fool anyone, what would be the point of that? I simply passed on what I thought was the correct information at the time. In hindsight I should not have posted anything at all, as this is not my area, design and layout is.
I apologize for the confusion. I was trying not to keep you guys in the dark.

Spork has the right info (as usual).

CaterpillaR

SporkfirePS
Developer posted 09-04-2003 10:39 AM
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The conflicting information is unfortunate and I apologize for it. The correct answer is that expansion equipment can be brought to the surface. However, it cannot be used by players who do not own the expansion. The exception will, of course, be the Router. Although players will not be able to drive or deploy it unless they have the expansion, they will be able to use its teleportation functions when it is deployed (it would be weird otherwise, ya know?)

Victor Wachter
Community Relations Representative
Many questions can be answered by reading the PlanetSide Game Info and FAQ

and the link: http://boards.station.sony.com/ubb/p...ML/017261.html

RushHourKonried · 2003-09-04, 07:47 PM

Originally posted by Queensidecastle
Yeah the people who can not decide to pass on upsizeing their Big Mac combos every day for a week, so they can buy the damn upgrade piss me off. Buy the stupid upgrade or just STFU. I dont think people should even see the graphics if they dont buy, screw em. Make everything look like beamers and AMSs. It is not like it is that friken expensive.

I have no patience or tolerance for these people whatsoever.

321 · 2003-09-04, 07:54 PM

I don't know but if the only thing your gonna miss out on is the new underground places is it really worth buying the expansion? If you can't use the new vehicles and weapons then it's totally worth buying the expanison. But then again I guess I'm just gonna by the expansion so I could do everything you could do in Planetside I mean it would be annoying if your whole squad went in one of the underground places and you couldn't cause you didn't buy the expansion.

And I'm not sure which one is correct but I would go with the one that is more recent.

Navaron · 2003-09-04, 08:13 PM

Who's suprised? That's a gigantic "miscommunication". Either someone's dumber than I thought, or me, Incomp, and LNS are right.

EarlyDawn · 2003-09-04, 08:45 PM

Mightybig indeed, one might even say... :

inky to mouth::..Intentional?

Flammey · 2003-09-04, 09:40 PM

You guys are getting your panties in a bind. From my view, here is what you are paying for.....

Use of high speed, high powered servers. NASA Quality.

24 hour/ 7 day a week in-game customer support. Thay are always there, they are always watching.

New in-game content, not barring expansions. EI: Skyguard, Liberator, LLU....a few others not yet implemented, such as platoons, and the base stuff.

The Ability to play online, 24/7 with hundreds, even thousands of others, and against hundreds or thousands. You problems with your computer/modem/internet provider are not their problems. This RAM drain is. It's being looked at by a few people, they even have a guy playing their game when ever he wants to, he gets paid to play, but he is paid to collect data on the game.

There may be more that I am not seeing, but these are the things I see, and these are the things you are paying for. You are not paying to play an expansion. It would be like having a carpenter come to your house, and build another room onto it, and then you don't pay him for it. THINK FOR ONE SECOND PEOPLE. Programming is not easy. It takes months of hard work.

I for one will pay for the expansion, and not bitch about it, unless when I try to install it, it fuks up my game. Then I'll piss and moan.

Happy lil Elf · 2003-09-04, 10:47 PM

LNS where in that quote did it say they couldn't be passengers? All I saw was they couldn't drive the vehicles or use the new weapons.

EarlyDawn · 2003-09-04, 11:30 PM

Spork said that the ONLY exception was the Router, which non-exp-ers will be able to teleport through, that is the only interaction possible. So I doubt he'd leave off passengers if we were able to do it.

Originally posted by Flammey
You guys are getting your panties in a bind. From my view, here is what you are paying for.....

Use of high speed, high powered servers. NASA Quality.

24 hour/ 7 day a week in-game customer support. Thay are always there, they are always watching.

New in-game content, not barring expansions. EI: Skyguard, Liberator, LLU....a few others not yet implemented, such as platoons, and the base stuff.

The Ability to play online, 24/7 with hundreds, even thousands of others, and against hundreds or thousands. You problems with your computer/modem/internet provider are not their problems. This RAM drain is. It's being looked at by a few people, they even have a guy playing their game when ever he wants to, he gets paid to play, but he is paid to collect data on the game.

There may be more that I am not seeing, but these are the things I see, and these are the things you are paying for. You are not paying to play an expansion. It would be like having a carpenter come to your house, and build another room onto it, and then you don't pay him for it. THINK FOR ONE SECOND PEOPLE. Programming is not easy. It takes months of hard work.

I for one will pay for the expansion, and not bitch about it, unless when I try to install it, it fuks up my game. Then I'll piss and moan.

::laugh:: What servers are you using? I think we're playing two different games here.

Incompetent · 2003-09-05, 12:42 AM

Jesus i can't believe how willing some people are to bend over and take it up the ass from some corporate fuck. The only reason they are doing this is because some numbers man who can't exist in the same room as a girl told them they would make marginally more money if they did. Basic humanity should be a requirement for a high level management position. I wonder if i'm going to have to pay extra to have the doors open when they're supposed too.

Goodwill and keeping the playerbase happy has jack shit to do with this, all they want is as much money as they can get in as short a time as possible, killing the game and ripping you off while your at it. And it's shit like this

Its utterly ridiculous to expect that you should benifit from the expansion while not being willing to pay for it

that lets them think they can get away with it. I already pay almost 15 dollars a month, as far as i'm concerned getting three new guns and three vehicles is proper compensation for all the shit we put up and all the upgrades they never delivered on. God forbid that they try to inspire some good will, or customer loyalty, no, they're gonna screw you over and your gonna let them, maybe even encourage it.

And for the record, I was going to buy the expansion up until I heard this, but now I am seriously contemplating dropping the game. Nothing, not the corpse bug, not the HA imbalance, not invisible reinforced with jackhammers, not being trapped in the spawn tube, not any of the numerous door bugs have ever made me consider that, but I get sick whenever I realize my money is going to people like that, and i'm not sure I want to feel that way anymore.