This is BS

[EarlyDawn]

Well, we've been royally fucked by Sony once again. Observe:
Spork on Content

In this link, Spork states that you'll be able to use the base upgrades that will be comming from Core Combat, but NOT use the vehicles or weapons. This contradicts what CatterpillAr said. Gimme a minute, and I'll fish up that link...

[Edit: http://boards.station.sony.com/ubb/p...ML/013994.html ]

[Phaden]

And this is my surprised face {Blank Look}

I know this is a shock {Blank Look}

But we are getting the rail {Blank Look}

But at least we can enjoy the "New free downloadable content" {Blank Look}

No but seriuosly we CAN enjoy the free content of watching the new vehichles do cool and fun things, we just have to pay to use them. And the only thing that will make me stop showing my blank look is if they charge more for the monthly.

[00AgentDuck]

Well yeah, since it's an expansion then why would people who didn't get it to be allowed to go to these areas or use this stuff? If everyone had it what would be the point of getting the expansion? But yeah I don't which is correct CatterpillAr or Spork.

[EarlyDawn]

I understand that they're a corporation, and are out to make money, but this is pretty underhanded. They need to get their act together and at least all say the same thing, even if it's the unpopular option.

[Incompetent]

SOE seems to be determined to drive off the player base. They seem to be doing a good job too.

[Cease]

Here's what I *think* will be the way the expansion works. The new weaps and vehicles will only be available in the new zones that the expansion brings. If you don't have the expansion you can't get into the new zones. Which therefore prevents you from purchasing the new weapons. However someone could bring these out of the new zones which would give the people who don't have the expansion the ability to loot them(if its a weap) or jack them(if its a vehicle).

But I'd bet money even the people with the expansion won't be able to "purchase" these items in the current world. They will always have to be purchased in the expansion zones.

Adding new zones is probably not a good idea at this point considering out of the 10 current continents often only 2 have anybody on them. More than half the world these days is generally a ghost town.

The expansion is only going to make the current world more barren than it already is.

[Veteran]

You got to pay to play. There are no exceptions.

That is all.

[shadowseed]

Originally posted by Cease
Here's what I *think* will be the way the expansion works. The new weaps and vehicles will only be available in the new zones that the expansion brings. If you don't have the expansion you can't get into the new zones. Which therefore prevents you from purchasing the new weapons. However someone could bring these out of the new zones which would give the people who don't have the expansion the ability to loot them(if its a weap) or jack them(if its a vehicle).

But I'd bet money even the people with the expansion won't be able to "purchase" these items in the current world. They will always have to be purchased in the expansion zones.

Adding new zones is probably not a good idea at this point considering out of the 10 current continents often only 2 have anybody on them. More than half the world these days is generally a ghost town.

The expansion is only going to make the current world more barren than it already is.

Only people with the expansion pack will be able to :
1) Go to the new zones
2) Use the new weapons/vechicals

People without will not be able to do the above, but will be able to:

1) See the new vechicals if someone brings them from the new zones
2) See a expantion-pack-holder using the new weapons.

But these new weapons and vechicals can only be purchased in the new zones, regardless of expansion pack or not.

If fact, this means everyone will need updates for the new content, regardless, and buying the expansion pack is nothing short of just buying a new key which enables the use of the content.
So why do they not bother just have on-line keys you can buy a bit cheaper than wasting money and time on selling the update on a CD in a box in a shop....

[Flammey]

The answer to that is simple : $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

[dymetrie]

Or for Those of Us in England (Scotland, Wales and Ireland also...)

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[Hamma]

Don't get pissed off just yet, sounds like there is some miscommunication on the dev team to me

I can't see them not allowing you to use the vehicles. That would be just plain stupid and more programming for them.

[Happy lil Elf]

Who said there wouldn't be a way to buy the expansion by just buying the CD key. If you don't want to buy it in the store you'll most likely be able to buy the expansion simply by clicking that you'd like to purchase it ala the way LoY and LDoN were done/are being done.

I think I'm going to make a point of taking Flails above ground, blowing up people without the expansion and then laughing maniacally at them when they send bitchy tells

[Madcow]

Originally posted by Happy lil' Elf
I think I'm going to make a point of taking Flails above ground, blowing up people without the expansion and then laughing maniacally at them when they send bitchy tells

Which was my point a long time ago about how this will alienate current subscribers who don't feel like getting gouged by Sony. My best guess is that it will slightly inflate the population for 2 months, bringing in enough new subscribers to gloss over the dedicated subscribers who leave because of it.

By the way, you'll have to hope that you can get underground, get a flail, get it to the top and kill people with it all before your 20 minutes is up and the memory leak crashes you right? I have absolutely no idea how somebody being crippled by that memory leak could actually pay Sony for an expansion without that getting fixed first.

[shadowseed]

Originally posted by Hamma
Don't get pissed off just yet, sounds like there is some miscommunication on the dev team to me

I can't see them not allowing you to use the vehicles. That would be just plain stupid and more programming for them.

Hmmmm according to that latest interview, it now looks like people with the expansion pack can enter the caverns, and bring back modules to upgrade facilitys on the surface, at which point, those without the expansion pack can get vechicals/weapons from that base with the upgrade module....

So the only advantage of buying the expansion pack is that you can go into these underground caverns and get these upgrade modules....

[Happy lil Elf]

Granted but I think I'll go for aiming for the people who whine about there being an expansion already and talk about how unfair it is they don't get the new toys without paying for them.