3 empires...many confusing points... - Page 2

Zetre · 2003-02-09, 07:59 PM

well, that's strange, since most people had confilcting ideas, but whatever, mine's right obviously, so... yeh

SandTrout · 2003-02-09, 08:14 PM

You want just the facts? Here they are.

Terrans have massive rate for fire, and therefore probably best damage overall. Their MAX can plant to the ground for double fire-rate, but saccrifices mobility and line of fire(can only turn 60 degrees I believe.) Their tank has 2 main guns and 2 chainguns.

New Conglomerate favors high per-shot damage, which is embodied in their common use of shotguns. Their MAX has the ability to activate a shield that drains its power, and halves its RoF. Their tank has the largest gun in the game and 2x 20mm guns.

The Vanu use beam weapons that are currently assumed to have less recoil(while still some). All their weapons use 1 type of ammo and normal and AP shots and dont require you to switch clips. Their MAX has less armor than the TR and NC MAXes, but is faster and has a jump-jet ability that can launch them into parabolic flight. Their tank can strafe, but little is known about its weapons currently.

Hellsfire123 · 2003-02-09, 08:43 PM

Where do you get the idea that high rate of fire means more damage? ill bring up the obvious differences from CS. TMP vs pump shotgun but with no headshots. Who do you think will win this? Even something more powerful like a p90 and the shotgun will still win.

In any case, all you can do is try them yourself. Im gonna go NC becuase im a huge fan of shotguns. But there is no definate stronger empire. If your a fan of lasers go vanu. If you like brute force and shotguns go NC. If you cant aim and need a high rate of fire go TR...j/k

Warborn · 2003-02-09, 08:51 PM

Originally posted by TeamR
In that case, your still wrong. None of the empires really sacrifice mobility, but the vanu do have a few advantages in that area.

Yeah. Funny thing though, I never said any of the Factions sacrifice mobility. Maybe you're thinking of someone else.

Zetre · 2003-02-09, 10:43 PM

hellsfire, think of it this way
get a person with 10000 health in CS, and then get a pump shotty and a P90. Now who do you think would kill the person first. My money is on the P90, or the auto shotty if it's in there. sure the shotty does a lot per shot, but it takes forever to pump.

Kyonye · 2003-02-09, 10:45 PM

Originally posted by Saint
Well the MAXs say it all

VS: Armor sacrificed for mobility

NC: Nothing sacrificed for firepower and a shield

TR: Mobility sacrificed for firing speed

you obviously are an NC freak. they have sacrificed something. every empire has a sacrifice.

Zetre · 2003-02-09, 10:53 PM

well, that's not necisarily true, but i see what you're saying. I bet they move slow or something. I personally think that the ability is kinda stupid though. It'll be usefull, but i think that the TR ma ability is far more creative

HolyFalcon · 2003-02-10, 06:51 PM

Wow thanks a lot guys from your input. I just left it for one day and I had NO IDEA would generate this much of a response. Even though some of the facts are different, I found what I was looking for but by all means keep talking......stalls time until the beta

arty:
(Still dont know which empire I am going to pick though...all sound pretty good for me, guess I need to wait and see)

Zetre · 2003-02-10, 08:18 PM

everyone is pretty much right except for saint (who has some of the facts right, but, overall, isn't really accurate or precise) I also think that everyone is sorta jack of all trades, i really don't think the vanu are the all arounds. I think they are fast and powerful but really easy to take out. And NC aren't only about power and shotguns, they seem to also be about range and strategy with the pheonix and the guass. Of course, i'm psudotalkingoutofmybuthere, but that's what i think so there.
I do agree with the max thing for the most part. NC-big, powerful, clunky, shielded, slow
TR-fast firing, powerful, quick, armored, all around looking (no extreme weakness)
VS-very quick, pretty powerful weapons, but they are slow moving, and low armor.

Duritz · 2003-02-10, 08:55 PM

Zetre, I KNOW that you know that the Vanu MAX is the fastest.

Zetre · 2003-02-10, 09:07 PM

if you're being sarcastic, then i'm just saying that it seems to be the most manuverable, with the jump jets and all. If your not, then yeh, thanks

mistled · 2003-02-10, 09:08 PM

Originally posted by Hellsfire123
If you cant aim and need a high rate of fire go TR...j/k

Yep... the only reason to have a high rate of fire instead of powerful shots is because you can't hit anything.

Duritz · 2003-02-10, 09:18 PM

VS-very quick, pretty powerful weapons, but they are slow moving, and low armor.

Well, I was being sarcastic because you said that they were fast and slow in the same sentence.

Flameseeker · 2003-02-10, 10:00 PM

Originally posted by Zetre
NC-big, powerful, clunky, shielded, slow
TR-fast firing, powerful, quick, armored, all around looking (no extreme weakness)
VS-very quick, pretty powerful weapons, but they are slow moving, and low armor.

Where are you getting this?

Point me to where it lists TR and NC max speeds as being faster or slower than each other? Actually NC has less armor. It goes on the guesstimate VS=650, NC=750, TR=800. TR weapons fire fastest, the max fires faster when clamped down, so it would be slower right? TO maintain a good rate of fire it would inch forward and clamp down? The NC has the shield, making it fire slower. It makes it the opposite of the TR. Sorta. Slow? Clunky? I just wanted to point out that I ahve never heard these describing the NC max before.

BCR · 2003-02-10, 11:07 PM

To make the differences as simple as possible

TR = Rate of fire
NC = Strong slow firing weapons
Vanu = Mobility

That's it in a nutshell. In the end product all the empires will be as powerful as each other, and comparable weapons will do roughly the same amount of damage over the same period of time, whether it be in a single shell, a hail of small shells, or an energy beam.