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Old 2012-11-14, 01:46 PM   [Ignore Me] #16
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Re: Does anyone here actually like the bases? I dont.


They're massive to look at but really small to navigate, 90% of the structure is useless and there is no indoor area to fight in.

That is why I hate them, the Planetside bases were even better :\
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Old 2012-11-14, 01:53 PM   [Ignore Me] #17
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Having a reason to be in some of the ancillary buildings would be nice, but be fair - most of a PS1 base was useless, too.
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Old 2012-11-14, 02:03 PM   [Ignore Me] #18
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I like that now instead of being able to camp 5 - 10 door ways, vehicles can camp everything now.
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Old 2012-11-14, 02:06 PM   [Ignore Me] #19
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i mostly agree with homer here.

the bases look great, but too little of the base is actual usable for a fight. (if you are no bailer or light assault).
and they don´t offer any of the basefight feeling from ps1. yes ps1 wasn´t perfect regarding the flow of battles, but some of the basebattles were epic and real fun! having at least some bases that are more like ps1 would be fine! people who don´t like entrenchment in corridor/hall situations can choose to fight somewhere else, while ps1 vets have the option to do it oldschool. you know, diversity!

would it be possible to give us one planetside next base to test gameflow in there? i saw a nice one in a banned video some time ago, that wasn´t official soe material i think. was rumoured to be some soe sponsored collage project, but the ps1 bases in modern look were interesting!
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Old 2012-11-14, 03:25 PM   [Ignore Me] #20
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In future patches it has been confirmed we are getting Interlinks and Dropship Centers so here's hoping for some variety. Personally I would like my Interlinks to have spawn rooms underground with corridors or tunnels. Make them a real jewel to capture.
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Old 2012-11-14, 07:45 PM   [Ignore Me] #21
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I honestly canot understand how people can say that the PS1 bases were better. They were small, with tight clausterphobic hallways that made large scale fights an absolute nightmare. It was a perfect example of a meat grinder because you just throw bodies at each other. There was no room to maneuver at all.

As for the area around the bases, PS2 is by far and away better than PS1 in terms of the terrain. The level of detail and the thought behind the design is not even close to comparison. The Planetside maps looked like randomly generated areas with some fine tuning done by hand. PS2 feels handcrafted on every square inch.
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Old 2012-11-14, 08:41 PM   [Ignore Me] #22
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Originally Posted by maradine View Post
Having a reason to be in some of the ancillary buildings would be nice, but be fair - most of a PS1 base was useless, too.
Have you ever played Planetside?

Obviously not.

What part of a PS1 base was not used?

Answer: Not a single thing.

I await your enlightenment, I must of hallucinated my entire Planetside 1 play experience.
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Old 2012-11-14, 08:48 PM   [Ignore Me] #23
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Have you ever played Planetside?

Obviously not.

What part of a PS1 base was not used?

Answer: Not a single thing.

I await your enlightenment, I must of hallucinated my entire Planetside 1 play experience.
I actually have to agree with Ritual on this one. A ton of potential is wasted in bases whereas most of a base was used in PS1. Optionally, battles in a base also lasted long enough to fight over every inch of the base.

Concerning the map, they said PS2 maps were made they way they are to maximize their use (ie. spread our gameplay all over them) but they have dead areas, just like PS1.

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Old 2012-11-14, 08:48 PM   [Ignore Me] #24
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I like the bases just fine. What I like more is that I believe they will add more layouts in the future.
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Old 2012-11-14, 09:59 PM   [Ignore Me] #25
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They've grown on me, and some of them are quite unique. I like that
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Old 2012-11-14, 11:43 PM   [Ignore Me] #26
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Originally Posted by Ritual View Post
Have you ever played Planetside?

Obviously not.

What part of a PS1 base was not used?

Answer: Not a single thing.

I await your enlightenment, I must of hallucinated my entire Planetside 1 play experience.
Only since May '03, but you already knew that, obviously. Is this where I'd add the eyeroll smiley? Am I using that right?

Everything that wasn't a two body wide tube between an entrance way and the spawn/gen was ancillary. Rooms in basements. Large portions of the upper decks of dropship centers. Walls that weren't overlooking the back door or the courtyard entrances.

I'm sorry you had a different experience. I'm sure it was vivid and valid. Is this where I dare you to post back sarcastically?
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Old 2012-11-15, 12:03 AM   [Ignore Me] #27
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I miss towers - with doors.
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Old 2012-11-15, 01:10 AM   [Ignore Me] #28
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My main dislike up to now has been the inevitable spawn camping that seems to be the deciding factor in most takeovers.

Also, just the sheer difficulty in defending some of the bases; far too open. I like prolonged gunfights, and would like to see bases designed with this in mind.
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Old 2012-11-15, 05:40 AM   [Ignore Me] #29
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Originally Posted by Shogun View Post

would it be possible to give us one planetside next base to test gameflow in there?
Something along these lines would be great. My favourite base in PS2 is the Biolab, but I'd really like to see one old PS1 style base on each continent, maybe as refurbished artifacts of a bygone era on Auraxis, brought back to life so that they could be used by the current inhabitants.

It would be interesting to get the feedback from people that had never played PS1 before to see if they thought the old bases were better than the new ones.
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Old 2012-11-15, 05:52 AM   [Ignore Me] #30
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Originally Posted by Raymac View Post
I honestly canot understand how people can say that the PS1 bases were better. They were small, with tight clausterphobic hallways that made large scale fights an absolute nightmare. It was a perfect example of a meat grinder because you just throw bodies at each other. There was no room to maneuver at all.

As for the area around the bases, PS2 is by far and away better than PS1 in terms of the terrain. The level of detail and the thought behind the design is not even close to comparison. The Planetside maps looked like randomly generated areas with some fine tuning done by hand. PS2 feels handcrafted on every square inch.
+100

Seriously you have to be fully retarded to say ps1 bases are better. ps2 bases are miles better
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