Reasons why your friends won't play Planetside 2 - Page 2

Qwan · 2013-04-10, 06:50 AM

This is funny but I know one real life person who loves the game and thats my 5 yr old daughter.... sorry 5 1/2. She ask me every day can she play planeside, and she is not to bad at it. I showed her how the classes work and what she had to do to get (what she calls cool stuff like mine) sights, and other side grades. But on a different note I dont know anyone who play PS2 in real life.

TitanUranus · 2013-04-10, 07:45 AM

Originally Posted by Qwan

This is funny but I know one real life person who loves the game and thats my 5 yr old daughter.... sorry 5 1/2. She ask me every day can she play planeside, and she is not to bad at it. I showed her how the classes work and what she had to do to get (what she calls cool stuff like mine) sights, and other side grades. But on a different note I dont know anyone who play PS2 in real life.

ever heard of desensitization to violence m8. good luck with the parenting. looks like your gonna need it.

EVILoHOMER · 2013-04-10, 08:11 AM

There aren't big battles anymore, I cannot impress friends with the scale because most the population has quit. When the game launched it had amazingly big battles on every cont all the time. Now the big battles are half the size they used to be and two conts are always dead and it just feels so barren with too much travel time for very little combat. So you might as well play BF3 or something, it feels larger now....

Also on BF3 you can always find a full server no matter what the time, on Planetside 2 you'll only find battles during prime time, any other time of day it'll be like you're wondering around a wasteland.

Narrack · 2013-04-10, 08:15 AM

Originally Posted by TitanUranus

ever heard of desensitization to violence m8. good luck with the parenting. looks like your gonna need it.

Planetside 2 is hardly violent, action packed yes but there's no blood, no gore and no sign of any character within the game enjoying the killing.

There's more violence in a Saturday morning kids cartoon

bpostal · 2013-04-10, 08:21 AM

A majority of my friends are console gamers, because they're weird.

Obstruction · 2013-04-10, 08:22 AM

in a game that is hardcore and you want to play with people like 8 or 12 hours a day it is generally better to wait a while and find people in the game who are already doing that and make friends among them.

it's also why you don't befriend noobs until you see they are going to play hard, otherwise you're just wasting your time trying to teach them when they are just going to quit or stay noobish.

as for your concerns about the sniper rifle, the basic bolt action is 100 certs for VS and TR so i don't see what the complaint is. noob can't get 100 certs repairing tanks i guess.

besides the semi autos are great for getting last-hit head/body shots anyway so again i don't see the problem. it's a different approach but still valid in a variety of fights.

TitanUranus · 2013-04-10, 08:23 AM

Originally Posted by Narrack

Planetside 2 is hardly violent, action packed yes but there's no blood, no gore and no sign of any character within the game enjoying the killing.

There's more violence in a Saturday morning kids cartoon

lols thats not how it works m8. its to do with brain development at certain stages of growing. things can happen that effect the person for life. like smocking cannbis too young. it has a different effect based on the stage of brain development. i do agree with the violence in kids cartoons though.

also the game is rated 13.

Rolfski · 2013-04-10, 08:44 AM

My RL friends don't play video games so I'm not even going to try getting them into this super newb-unfriendly, you-will-die-constantly game.

If anything, I would recommend Bioshock Infinite to them as a starter game.

ThatGoatGuy · 2013-04-10, 08:57 AM

One of my friends is obsessed with seeing PS2 as P2W kind of a game, and it really annoys me. I tell him constantly that everything is acheivable in game with certs (except camos

), and that it's pretty easy. I make around 200-300 certs a day, playing for only about 3-4 hours. He has a better PC than me...

It really pisses me off.

JesNC · 2013-04-10, 09:11 AM

Originally Posted by Figment

The local RL friends I have that are interested in PS(2) don't play because of performance issues.

The outfit mates of mine that don't play, don't play primarily because of:

1. Zerg benefitting gameplay (small groups being of little importance and impact in comparison to sheer numbers)
2. Base layouts and lack of defensibility (includes spawncamping, but also disconnectivity of bases between spawns and objectives and location of spawns and objectives, lack of catwalks, etc. Cover situation has improved somewhat)
3. Lacking grand strategy goals and persistence (pointless to capture something if it is ghosted behind you, endless threeways)
4. Performance
5. Too fast TTK to be competitive (die to random bullets from all directions fired by hundreds of people without having a chance to fight back, but OHK explosives and any efforts to get somewhere being undone before you can act are major annoyances)
6. Lack of teamwork vehicles (boring solo vehicles that have too much firepower for solo players, but do not have enough endurance for crews)
7. Domination by certain units (rocketpods, Libs, tanks in certain situations)
8. Mass unit spam due to non-restrictive cert system
9. Lack of unique personality feel for characters (everyone is everything)
10. Capture systems (long term hold in defense)
11. Unpredictability of capture timers (fixed cap timers on test server may help)
12. NC weapons (used to be a bigger issue)
13. Inflexible and clunky class system.

Guns feeling the same is not really an issue, because they don't really care for that.

Some of these issues might be addressed by the changes life now on the test server (#11 and #3 in particular). #12 has improved a little, but due to the short TTKs, NC weapon philosophy is often hardly a benefit.

The base layouts continues to be a problem, also on the test server. What good does it do to defenders to create a courtyard that just boxes you in? If you can't use walls and other defenses to try and control the surrounding field, what good are they? You'll just give the field to the attackers if you can't fire from the walls.

Though I'm playing a lot with Light Assault, I really wonder what would happen to game flow if they'd disable the jetpacks and replace it by a sprint boost. I'm quite sure choke points would become viable defensive positions over night.

You might want to add

14. Disappoinment with the community/playerbase

I simply cannot stand the amount of complaining anymore, so when I play at all I usually mute all voice channels and ignore the chat and just go lone wolf. Sometimes I run with an outfit squad - until someone brings up the 'OMG this is so bad it's still beta'-topic.
I play games to have fun, not to be lectured about 'good' or 'bad' game design.

My RL aquiantances are split in 2 groups:

- Those that I think would be interested in the game even in it's current state: they can't play due to hardware constraints.
- The rest: I don't even bother recommending the game to them.

VaderShake · 2013-04-10, 09:13 AM

Blah, Blah, Blah.......sound like a buch of quitters to me that just want to take their ball and go home because PS2 does not catered perfectly to them. I guess that's what over nuturing has done to our society.

Ironically my friends who did not like PS2 at first have grown to really enjoy the game and can't wait to see where the next year plus takes it.

KodanBlack · 2013-04-10, 09:44 AM

Originally Posted by Illtempered

All those reasons are nub reasons not to play. I'm glad your friends moved on. No offense.

Weren't we all "nub" at one time? It's better to help new players, than to call them "nub", "n00b", etc and discorage them from becoming good players. I'm sorry that they did move on.

Fenrys · 2013-04-10, 09:51 AM

Of the two friends I talked into installing PS2:
- one looked for a tutorial, could not find it, and uninstalled
- and the other was unable to find a reasonable fight, everywhere they went the first couple times logging on was either empty or had 100 opponents and no friendlies

Dougnifico · 2013-04-10, 10:00 AM

1. No tutorial and overwhelming gameplay
2. Too much for their system to handle
3. High TTK (especially for snipers. I'm sorry but a headshot with a sniper should kill. Also, I think sniper should be able to one shot other snipers.)
4. Too much zerg and confusion
5. High cost of store items
6. Plebeians who insist that their console games are actually up to par with PC and require the mind-numbing gameplay of Call of Duty.

Assist · 2013-04-10, 10:03 AM

Mainly the ones that won't play aren't computer nerds.
Besides that though, performance issues is the biggest reason. Most of the people I play with don't game nearly as much anymore, therefore don't see it worthwhile to upgrade to a top of the line PC for this game.
After that it's the lack of feeling like you can accomplish something. Games I come from you either owned an area and defended it / attacked from it (more regional base combat), owned a castle and always made sure you didn't lose it because of the benefits it brought, or there were awards of sorts(skills/implants/gear/abilities) for the more success you had.